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Eating nuts in enclosed spaces

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ordinarygirl Tue 25-Jun-24 15:31:18

The mother of the girl who died from an allergy to sesame seeds (contained in a bagette) has slammed an advert when it shows somebody eating a a peanut bar on a plane. I fully accept that to have an allergy ( not an intolerance) must be awful. However, is it fair to ban other people from eating nuts whilst on a plane ? For vegans, it is usually an easy option for a snack or meal as caterers don't provide anything for vegans to eat. If travelling from home, then it is easy to take a sandwich but when coming home from a holiday then it is not the case. Hence the purchase of a nut bar. As far as I know there are no restrictions on what people can eat on a plane - I wish there was (when it is smelly meat or eggs). So the questions are - a) should there be a ban on nuts - like smoking? b) The chances of meeting someone with an allergy must be low , so is it fair?

Milest0ne Fri 28-Jun-24 11:49:37

Visgir1

Having just done a long haul flight, home this weekend you get snacks but not Nuts, this has been like this for several years now.
The food they serve is also Nut free.

I have an allergy to Avocado's, it's in everything!

Have you ever tried buying a sandwich without Mayo? I have an egg intolerance.

Babsbada Fri 28-Jun-24 11:50:27

Of course it's fair for all the above reasons. It's totally obvious. Who can't live without a packet.of nuts for a few hours? Ridiculous.

sweetcakes Fri 28-Jun-24 11:56:37

maddyone.
I think pretzels are a very good alternative I wouldn't mind at all.
But meddijess really how selfish can you be!

MissInterpreted Fri 28-Jun-24 12:09:20

Milest0ne

Visgir1

Having just done a long haul flight, home this weekend you get snacks but not Nuts, this has been like this for several years now.
The food they serve is also Nut free.

I have an allergy to Avocado's, it's in everything!

Have you ever tried buying a sandwich without Mayo? I have an egg intolerance.

I've seen lots of sandwiches advertised without mayo.

orly Fri 28-Jun-24 12:14:13

Grandmabatty

So your 'right' to eat nuts means someone's life is at risk? Are you saying that you couldn't find an alternative for the two or three hours in an airplane? Nut allergy is one of the most severe allergies

...but when you take into account all the allergies people may have you could end up starving or, as the earlier poster said, ending up with a low blood sugar which is also very dangerous for people with Type 1 diabetes.

devongranny Fri 28-Jun-24 12:18:05

I have a severe nut allergy and it is not the enclosed space in the aircraft but that the air is recirculating and as the cabin crew explained to me if someone eats nuts at front of plane it can be recirculating in the air and so still kill you.

DamaskRose Fri 28-Jun-24 12:18:47

But surely there are suitable snacks which do not contain nuts?

Maremia Fri 28-Jun-24 12:22:48

Correct me if I am wrong , but are VEGANS not in favour of saving lives?

deanswaydolly Fri 28-Jun-24 12:25:34

Wow! My granddaughter has a severe allergy. She is 17 and has been hospitalised and nearly lost her life. We carry epipens and cards for staff in restaurants etc..Also we always inform airlines when booking, when checking in and when boarding. Its not her fault. People are so very entitled and SELFISH these days if they cannot refrain from eating something for a few hours that would KILL someone else. Sorry I find this post abominable.

Callistemon213 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:27:47

devongranny

I have a severe nut allergy and it is not the enclosed space in the aircraft but that the air is recirculating and as the cabin crew explained to me if someone eats nuts at front of plane it can be recirculating in the air and so still kill you.

Yes, this.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 12:35:28

orly

Grandmabatty

So your 'right' to eat nuts means someone's life is at risk? Are you saying that you couldn't find an alternative for the two or three hours in an airplane? Nut allergy is one of the most severe allergies

...but when you take into account all the allergies people may have you could end up starving or, as the earlier poster said, ending up with a low blood sugar which is also very dangerous for people with Type 1 diabetes.

Nuts aren't helpful for T1 diabetics experiencing a hypo.

SparklyGrandma Fri 28-Jun-24 12:36:45

I think nuts should not be sold nor eaten on a flight. I am vegetarian and diabetic, so use nuts at home when having or near a hypo.
After being on a long train journey with no food nor snacks offered, I now always buy food before boarding a plane or train. I will bear in mind what I have read here and never buy nuts to take on an enclosed space journey.

OP - thank you for educating me!

MissInterpreted Fri 28-Jun-24 12:38:29

orly

Grandmabatty

So your 'right' to eat nuts means someone's life is at risk? Are you saying that you couldn't find an alternative for the two or three hours in an airplane? Nut allergy is one of the most severe allergies

...but when you take into account all the allergies people may have you could end up starving or, as the earlier poster said, ending up with a low blood sugar which is also very dangerous for people with Type 1 diabetes.

No-one is going to starve on a flight - even a long haul one. There are plenty of alternatives to eating nuts, especially for diabetics.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 12:50:03

SparklyGrandma

I think nuts should not be sold nor eaten on a flight. I am vegetarian and diabetic, so use nuts at home when having or near a hypo.
After being on a long train journey with no food nor snacks offered, I now always buy food before boarding a plane or train. I will bear in mind what I have read here and never buy nuts to take on an enclosed space journey.

OP - thank you for educating me!

The advice for a diabetic having a hypo is to have a fast-acting carb, such as sweets or full sugar fizzy drink, followed by a starchy carb. Nuts are very low carb, so don't help with hypos. Boiled sweets or dried fruit and a no-nut muesli bar would be better than nuts.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 12:50:55

MissInterpreted

orly

Grandmabatty

So your 'right' to eat nuts means someone's life is at risk? Are you saying that you couldn't find an alternative for the two or three hours in an airplane? Nut allergy is one of the most severe allergies

...but when you take into account all the allergies people may have you could end up starving or, as the earlier poster said, ending up with a low blood sugar which is also very dangerous for people with Type 1 diabetes.

No-one is going to starve on a flight - even a long haul one. There are plenty of alternatives to eating nuts, especially for diabetics.

I agree. I Googled "no nut snacks for vegans" and came up with hundreds of results.

SueEH Fri 28-Jun-24 13:12:25

Selfish comments here. If airlines are informed in advance of a peanut allergy they will not serve anything containing nuts on that flight and will make an announcement before take off asking passengers to refrain from eating nuts. And who here would risk someone’s life after hearing that announcement?

Amalegra Fri 28-Jun-24 13:35:47

Ban all nuts! A danger to life! And while you’re at it ban gluten products too! And alcohol (would have been a Class A drug if categories had been around when it was first introduced!) Seriously, we have to be mindful of those with allergies or disabilities which are in fact often hidden. In this case, a directive by airlines for passengers to list allergies might help. But what about buses/trains/public places etc? A manufacturer/restaurant should obviously state the ingredients in the product or meal, of course. Otherwise I think it is up to the individual to take responsibility and anticipate the co operation of other people, which, considering the seriousness of a potential outcome, should be forthcoming. We cannot legislate for every single danger in the world, unfortunately. By the way, I do have a family member who is severely gluten intolerant (coeliac disease) but she does manage very well.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 28-Jun-24 14:15:26

Surely, if nuts are so dangerous that eating them on a plane might mean someone else died, you would refrain from doing so?

Dried fruit such as apricots, prunes or raisins would do, wouldn't they?

I may be ignorant here, but I have not heard of anyone dying because the person next to them ate dried fruit.

Alison333 Fri 28-Jun-24 14:52:15

Grandmabatty

So your 'right' to eat nuts means someone's life is at risk? Are you saying that you couldn't find an alternative for the two or three hours in an airplane? Nut allergy is one of the most severe allergies

Well said, Grandmabatty!

My son is a vegan and he manages to find food without nuts when staying with us and surely diabetics can find food to carry with them that doesn't contain nuts!

Severe nut allergies are surprisingly common and research suggests that many people could have died from then in the past and their deaths explained as heart attacks etc. I got my first nut allergy reaction in 1957!

It's only in the last 30 years or so that nuts have been so widely available and included in convenience foods. Previously, they were seen as 'treats'.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 14:57:13

grandtanteJE65

Surely, if nuts are so dangerous that eating them on a plane might mean someone else died, you would refrain from doing so?

Dried fruit such as apricots, prunes or raisins would do, wouldn't they?

I may be ignorant here, but I have not heard of anyone dying because the person next to them ate dried fruit.

You're not ignorant. Dried fruit is sold in small packets and would be far better than nuts for treating a hypo. There are also sorts of snack bars which don't contain nuts.

Aldom Fri 28-Jun-24 15:19:55

MilestOne Last week, travelling north on the motorway we stopped at a service station for coffee and a sandwich. There was no mayonnaise in the cream cheese and smoked salmon sandwiches.

Floz Fri 28-Jun-24 15:39:15

I’m shocked at some of the selfish and ignorant comments in this thread. I’ve spent many miserable hours in A&Es with each of my daughters. Both allergic to nuts since babies. Both now adult . I’d like to add that many airlines are sympathetic (Easy Jet, Ryanair, Jet2) but many are not. BA have not been helpful in the past, nor Emirates or Virgin (“but the 1st class passengers HAVE to have nuts with their pre-dinner drinks”).
I think that in spite of warning the airline in advance, it often depends on the cabin crew whether announcements are made, and also on the understanding and consideration of fellow passengers.
Thank you, OP, for raising this issue.

SueDoku Fri 28-Jun-24 15:58:36

Grandmabatty

So your 'right' to eat nuts means someone's life is at risk? Are you saying that you couldn't find an alternative for the two or three hours in an airplane? Nut allergy is one of the most severe allergies

This. How to devalue the life of someone else because you fancy a snack...😱

dogsmother Fri 28-Jun-24 16:13:54

EkwaNimitee

No, it’s not fair or right, first nuts then what next?
My emergency travelling stash-for a low blood sugar episode or meal not turning up-includes fruit and nut bars. I had to use them yesterday on a train journey.
I can’t imagine what non-perishable items could be substituted.

Why so selfish when there are alternatives? Low blood sugar simply needs bringing back and many things can do rather just fruit and nut bars.

Missiseff Fri 28-Jun-24 16:18:57

Absolutely fair. What's NOT fair is putting someone's life in danger