Eating nuts in enclosed spaces

ordinarygirl

I would also add that if catering for vegans and others was not so dire, then people would not need to take nut bars with them on planes and trains. Nut bars are a replacement for a meal that is not offered to vegans by catering firms . It is not a snack but for a vegan it is nourishment on a long flight.

We're flying next week with Jet2, a four hour flight, very early departure.
Hot meals have to be pre-ordered so I have booked breakfasts for the four of us, two of which are vegan options.
I can't speak for other airlines, but Jet2 have several vegan options on their in-flight menus.

My DD said her recent flight to Crete was nut free and no one complained, I think it's a small price to pay to not threaten someone's life

Well, I flew long haul home last Friday and Internal yesterday, no nuts.
I can't remember the last time I was offered Nuts, it's these Pretzel things they give you now.

Another thought to this debate. If someone does have anaphylaxis on a plane then the flight will be diverted to the nearest city where there is a hospital .Epipens do not stop the reaction from progressing they give time until further treatment can be given. I have had numerous anaphylactic shocks to wheat and nuts. 2 Epipens pause the reaction for about 10 minutes then I need further shots in the ambulance,i v steroids antihistamine s,oxygen and iv fluids in resus.
So although people may be inconvenienced by not being allowed to eat nuts on a plane ,it will be a greater time delay to the trip if someone has a serious allergic reaction. Or sadly you may have a death on the flight which will also have an impact on all passengers and crew.

Who knew?????

I regularly stuffed my face with in flight peanuts. G and Ts , snacks and the holiday started here.

I'll probably avoid it now.

Where did all these severe nut allergies come from? No-one questioned this 30 years ago.

Well, yes, they did. My daughter was born in 1992 and I remember that a child died from anaphylactic shock caused by eating peanut butter about the same time. Parents were warned about giving their children nuts. There had been suspicions about nut allergies from the 1970s. It's difficult to know whether there has truly been a rise in allergies or a rise in awareness. Childhood deaths have fallen dramatically since the 1970s and it could have been that some of those children died from an unsuspected allergy.

My son suffered anaphylactic shock in 1986, the day after Hallowe'en. He had been given a bag of monkey nuts at the Beavers and I told him not to touch them, but he did.
He had only one and if my husband hadn't made him sick, he would be dead.
It is just that people weren't so well versed about it then.

The selfishness on display here is mind-boggling. I doubt anyone would die over the course of a 12 hour flight because they weren’t able to eat any nuts but someone could easily die because another person insisted on consuming nuts in an allergic person’s presence.

This thread was on my mind today while shopping. I’m going on a six hour train journey tomorrow and when buying food for my trip I decided to avoid nuts, just in case it affects anyone on the train. It wasn’t hard to avoid nuts, there are loads of alternatives and I’ve still got a tasty ‘train picnic’ to enjoy.

ordinarygirl

I would also add that if catering for vegans and others was not so dire, then people would not need to take nut bars with them on planes and trains. Nut bars are a replacement for a meal that is not offered to vegans by catering firms . It is not a snack but for a vegan it is nourishment on a long flight.

It's problematic, but I think airlines are catching up with the trend and will eventually offer a wider variety of options.

In the meantime however, would anyone want to be the cause of someone's death on a flight? That would certainly cause more anguish than missing a meal.

The fault lies with the catering companies used by the airlines - so pressure needs to be applied, initially to the airlines to find more suitable caterers. I think the vegan business world is getting its act together anyway.

I've been on se eral different airlines when announcements have been made to let passengers know that a passenger is sensitive to nuts and nuts or any item containing any kind of nuts should not be unwrapped or opened. Noticed some passengers being a bit unsure and staff would check with the passenger concerned asking if item would be okay. People were checking anything, heard someone ask if the item they had with palm oil in it was it a danger. System seems to work.

As an ex-smoker, I don’t think that going without nuts for the duration of a flight would be as difficult as not smoking. Like smoking, it’s a safety issue.

I fly long-haul quite frequently and cannot remember nuts being handed out for a long time. I agree that nut allergy’s can be fatal if untreated/slow treatment and to that end nutts should not be consumed on flights.
Although some heavy perfumes can cause problems for asthmatics, it can sometimes be the accumulation off these smells that can trigger an asthma attack which although uncomfortable can if not treated also become fatal, especially if the sufferer has run out of medication or is badly controlled, or with other chest problems
As far as the diabetic is concerned, I carry lucozade sweets in case of a hypo which can be experienced by both Type 1 and Type diabetics.

I’m quite incensed by some of the comments here. DD2 (30) has had an epipen since she was 2. And she has been very ill due to nut exposure on a number of occasions. At her (private) school she was taken into a cafe in France serving cakes with nuts in and just by being in this environment, she started to feel faint. The teachers literally told her to get a grip but did eventually let her wait outside. Actually, she is not allergic to peanuts but virtually all other nuts, Brazil nuts being the worst. As I detest peanuts and gorged most other nuts whilst pregnant I can safely say I’m the cause but no idea why. Her own daughter, DGD3 has no allergies at all, her brother DGS2, had a huge milk intolerance but is now ok with yogurt and butter but still hasn’t had cows milk yet and he is 3.

Are people who are very sensitised to nuts expected to remain indoors for the rest of their lives just so an entitled minority can eat nuts anywhere they wish?

What a very selfish post obviously you don’t have a grandson with a severe peanut allergy most people on a flight are considerate of this but there’s always an exception of a greedy person

I suspect posters don't mean to be unkind or selfish, but are very ignorant of the potentially fatal consequences of eating peanuts for some people.

Now that the have been enlightened on this thread, I sincerely hope they change their attitude.

I can safely say I’m the cause but no idea why. glammagran, me too!

I have been on a plane where they asked everyone not to eat any nuts as they had someone with a severe allergy on board. Of course, they were right to do this. Someone dying trumps your right to eat a nut bar wherever you want!