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Trainee GP concerns?

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lixy Tue 20-Aug-24 17:52:18

Trainee GPs are qualified doctors doing extra training to be gps. They are allowed extra time for each consultation and have a qualified go mentor within the practice to refer to if unsure. I hope your treatment is effective and you feel better soon.

keepingquiet Tue 20-Aug-24 17:49:08

It all seems a bit pot-luck doesn't it?

If you're not happy after trying the medication then go back.

DancingDuck Tue 20-Aug-24 17:45:00

Auntieflo

I agree with Petra and Cossy. Having seen a trainee Dr a couple of times, they were extremely thorough and I was with one of them for 45 minutes, and a GP was on hand if needed. Wish all our appointments could be like that.

Good to know, this one just didn't seem to be very knowledgeble or thorough, most of the time if you are seeing GP you have not met before, they would at least do a brief examination.

DancingDuck Tue 20-Aug-24 17:42:30

ronib

Exactly how do you know that the trainee gp wasn’t conferring with a supervisor online? You wrote that he had access to a computer so he may have been supervised but without your knowledge.

Because I was sat facing the screen.

ronib Tue 20-Aug-24 17:34:48

Exactly how do you know that the trainee gp wasn’t conferring with a supervisor online? You wrote that he had access to a computer so he may have been supervised but without your knowledge.

Auntieflo Tue 20-Aug-24 17:26:56

I agree with Petra and Cossy. Having seen a trainee Dr a couple of times, they were extremely thorough and I was with one of them for 45 minutes, and a GP was on hand if needed. Wish all our appointments could be like that.

Cabbie21 Tue 20-Aug-24 17:22:29

Our online booking system does allow us to see who we are booking with and their status. It also states whether male or female.

DancingDuck Tue 20-Aug-24 17:04:02

Judy54

I am more concerned about the Physician Associates who have 2 years training and are not qualified Doctors. Their role is to assist Doctors not take their place. It is very concerning that they are being allowed to do things that only trained Doctors should be doing. They are soon to be recognised by the General Medical Council Why? The problem is we are not told when visiting our GP's whether we are seeing an actual Doctor or a Physician Associate. This cannot and should not be acceptable to Patients.

Totally agree on this, I see that there is a need for such a role but it should be made clear on making an appointment this is who you are seeing and they should only be able to see you for certain minor ailments.

Judy54 Tue 20-Aug-24 16:51:53

I am more concerned about the Physician Associates who have 2 years training and are not qualified Doctors. Their role is to assist Doctors not take their place. It is very concerning that they are being allowed to do things that only trained Doctors should be doing. They are soon to be recognised by the General Medical Council Why? The problem is we are not told when visiting our GP's whether we are seeing an actual Doctor or a Physician Associate. This cannot and should not be acceptable to Patients.

sweetcakes Tue 20-Aug-24 16:48:17

I don't mind a trainee so long as another Dr. is supervising him/her
and that goes for hospitals as well.
They do have to learn but needs checking.

Nannarose Tue 20-Aug-24 16:45:40

I started this before M)nica's post - so sorry to hear this.

Nannarose Tue 20-Aug-24 16:44:39

I do think that it is difficult without further information. This is what I think is relevant:
I am presuming they had access to information from your previous appointments
Has this medication been tried before, and if so did you tell them?
Depending on the situation, a month could be a reasonable trial of this medication - do you have any reason to think it shouldn't be tried?
Have you been given follow-up information - such as 'come back in a month's time to discuss how the trial has worked' or 'if you see no improvement by [a certain time] please make an appointment'.

These flow charts / algorithms are very useful. They are a way of ensuring that things are not missed, and as a nurse practitioner I used them a lot.

I would consider why you don't feel you have been heard properly by the doctor. Is it because you have a feeling that this medication isn't the right thing for you? Think about why.
Is it because these are worrying times in the NHS and we are all a bit on edge?
Did you not feel comfortable with this doctor - because they are a 'trainee' or some other reason?

8 months is quite a long time - is your problem worsening or not going away? Or i it one of those intermittent issues?

In this situation you do have a right to discuss with someone else, you also (IMHO) have the responsibility to consider the use of NHS resources. If you do ask to see someone else, I would try to pinpoint what you feel the problem is. Sometimes when we are upset and anxious that is difficult

I do hope this is helpful and that you can resolve it.

M0nica Tue 20-Aug-24 16:41:31

Trainee GP nearly killed our daughter.

Cossy Tue 20-Aug-24 16:26:21

*In my experience!! Edit button please

Cossy Tue 20-Aug-24 16:25:33

Sometimes, I’m my experience, the trainees are more thorough. Don’t forget although they are “trainee GPs” they will have undertaken a diverse set of training to this point.

If you’re not happy or satisfied rebook and ask to see someone else for a second opinion.

Good luck thanks

petra Tue 20-Aug-24 16:24:34

I wish everyone could see the trainee Dr I saw.
It was an emergency appointment, I was with him for over 30 mins.
He tested absolutely everything, including an ECG. Then he phoned the hospital to tell them to expect me. Wonderful man.

DancingDuck Tue 20-Aug-24 16:14:11

Been to see the GP today regarding GI problems which have not been resolved yet following initial appointment 8 months ago.
Was given an appointment with a trainee GP who basically just used a flow chart on the computer and prescribed a month worth of medication to see if it helped, no examination or discussion about previous GP appointments even though I told them the history.
I know everyone has to learn but feel a bit annoyed that I've just been given some pills and sent away with no further investigation because it wasn't on the flow chart of what to do - is this what we now have to expect of our GP service ?
I don't want to knock the trainee but feel like there probably should have been a more experienced person there as well as just reading off a chart did not give me any confidence that I'm even getting an appropriate treatment.