Junior doctors to be called resident doctors

Because that would be too easy!!!

I think resident doctors means that they are hospital based and not community based. I am pleased they are doing it, for doctors who have been in training for many years in their specialism the junior title seems wrong.

Mamie

I think resident doctors means that they are hospital based and not community based. I am pleased they are doing it, for doctors who have been in training for many years in their specialism the junior title seems wrong.

I agree.

What was wrong with House Doctors and Registrars?

Maybe some in the profession can explain why. We have student doctors, resident/junior Drs, GPs and consultants. Why can't the resident/junior Drs be known as Dr?is there another category somewhere who is just plain Dr?

I don't understand why they were called junior doctors in the first place. Some have been doctors for many years and perform difficult operations so junior gives the wrong impression.

AGAA4

I don't understand why they were called junior doctors in the first place. Some have been doctors for many years and perform difficult operations so junior gives the wrong impression.

I think because they were still in training (not consultants) even if they had been qualified for ten years or more.

Usedn't they to be called Housemen?

Baggs

Usedn't they to be called Housemen?

Yes junior house doctor and senior house doctor, the first two years after medical school. Now Foundation Year 1 and 2.

If it helps, in France we have interne and practicien hospitalier with 14 levels of qualification. 😂

That is what they call them in America.

It has been confusing for patients.
F 1, F2, ST, SpR.... In otherwords, Houseman, Senior Houseman, Registrar, and Senior Reg. As well as GP Trainees, and others.
They will surely need to be identified, so folk know what level they are at?

BigBopper

That is what they call them in America.

Same as resident really. Interne because they are inside the hospital rather than externe. (Suspect the French got there first). 😂

They were traditionally called junior doctors after graduating from Med school while completing post graduate training stages. It was partly the huge hike in GPs salaries that caused the strike problem in the first place, as there was a colossal difference in salary and other terms and conditions.

How many people currently know the specific grade of a doctor treating them in hospital? i suppose consultants could wear a funny hat or something to show they are the Top Doctors, but below that, who cares - they are just 'doctors'

For internal purposes they can have as many grades as they like and call them what they will, but a group word, for a collection of hospital doctors is - 'doctors -.

M0nica

How many people currently know the specific grade of a doctor treating them in hospital? i suppose consultants could wear a funny hat or something to show they are the Top Doctors, but below that, who cares - they are just 'doctors'

For internal purposes they can have as many grades as they like and call them what they will, but a group word, for a collection of hospital doctors is - 'doctors -.

The last one I saw told me he was Mr M's registrar.
Mr M was in an adjacent cubicle, dealing with endless questions from a patient's son. I could hear every word. 😴 Such patience by the Consultant!

The registrar was very efficient.

The term houseman wouldn't work these days. They'd have to be a houseman, housewoman or houseperson.

Changing the name is surely just window-dressing. What about giving these hard-working people a better salary, or failing that better working conditions?

Its an archaic name and its important to be given a title you can be proud of.

In Canada I think Residents are people still in training and have not fully completed all the necessary for their license.
I saw a Resident this past Monday. After the appointment and before I left the office the Resident needed to go over my file with my Doctor.
I like them because they tend to be very thorough.

grandtanteJE65

Changing the name is surely just window-dressing. What about giving these hard-working people a better salary, or failing that better working conditions?

I think it is what the "junior" doctors wanted and was part of the settlement of the pay dispute. To be referred to as junior doctors, when some are in very responsible positions after years of training, does seems wrong.
I do think it helps to know more than just the generic "doctor" title.
I would not want to be operated on by someone with a PhD in philosophy. 😂

In my young day (many years ago ) residents were the house doctors in their first year after graduating. They had to stay in the hospital day and night when on call, which could be around 100 hours per week in some cases. At least now the hours are a bit more sensible.

I don't care what they are called as long as they are there, and they lose their attitude that they are doing their patients a huge favour. Nurses aren't like this.

I agree. Junior doctors wasn’t the right term.

Locums of yore.