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What is a 'clinician'? Am I being unreasonable??

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Jess20 Thu 13-Feb-25 15:55:08

I've been trying to get help for a very painful ankle since August and going round in circles. From being very fit and active I'm now stumbling along unable to walk my dog properly. I was referred to Muscular Skeletal months ago and just been told I can have an appointment next month with a 'Clinician'. I asked if this was a doctor, nurse, physiotherapist, physicians assistant, etc and was told it was a 'Clinician', nothing else, not even what sort of clinician except they deal with my problem. I am sure this person must have some formal qualifications but I couldn't find out what they were and I'm not too happy being referred without knowing the expertise or speciality or qualifications of the person I'm seeing. Am I being unreasonable?

theworriedwell Sun 16-Feb-25 03:05:12

When I had an ankle issue it was initially dealt with by a nurse practitioner, she had me x-rayed and strapped it up and referred me to physio for follow up. Very efficient she was too.

mae13 Sun 16-Feb-25 06:11:54

A Clinician? That's a broad description - could easily be just about anybody who's managed to get themselves a First Aid certificate.

Marydoll Sun 16-Feb-25 09:56:50

mae13

A Clinician? That's a broad description - could easily be just about anybody who's managed to get themselves a First Aid certificate.

The common definition of clinician is: a person qualified in the clinical practice of medicine, psychiatry, or psychology as distinguished from one specializing in laboratory or research techniques or in theory.

I don't think having a First Aid certificate qualifies. wink

mabon1 Sun 16-Feb-25 13:08:29

Find their name and look up the qualifications on Google or NHS website or ask your GP. It is disgraceful that you are not being informed.

Rasamara Sun 16-Feb-25 15:33:17

If it helps, when I was in the nhs (happily left last year) we all had the same job title but we all had different qualifications — and all of these were appropriate to allow us to do the job we were employed to do. Whomever did the bookings might know which individual would be assigned to you; whenever I met anyone I told them what version of the possible range I was.
My discipline is different to the OP’s condition — mental health not physical health — but the same principle applies I believe? The cynic in me, however, believes it is part of the process of ‘dumbing down’ the nhs by giving us all generic contracts (and don’t get me started on the constant lowering of pay bands for key team management roles). So I’m a highly experienced, very specialised child & adolescent psychotherapist (also have qualifications for adult work as well) but there I was a generic “mental health worker” and all of us were “clinicians”.
OP you have every right to know who is treating, and should definitely ask, but don’t let it stop you going. Only when you are there will you know if you are being treated by a physio with 20+ years experience or a wet behind the ears, not yet learned bedside manners, junior doctor… and both would be clinicians. Hope your ankle improves soon 🤗

Luckygirl3 Sun 16-Feb-25 15:43:32

Seems a shame they did not just answer your question.

CariadAgain Sun 16-Feb-25 16:30:16

Rasamara

If it helps, when I was in the nhs (happily left last year) we all had the same job title but we all had different qualifications — and all of these were appropriate to allow us to do the job we were employed to do. Whomever did the bookings might know which individual would be assigned to you; whenever I met anyone I told them what version of the possible range I was.
My discipline is different to the OP’s condition — mental health not physical health — but the same principle applies I believe? The cynic in me, however, believes it is part of the process of ‘dumbing down’ the nhs by giving us all generic contracts (and don’t get me started on the constant lowering of pay bands for key team management roles). So I’m a highly experienced, very specialised child & adolescent psychotherapist (also have qualifications for adult work as well) but there I was a generic “mental health worker” and all of us were “clinicians”.
OP you have every right to know who is treating, and should definitely ask, but don’t let it stop you going. Only when you are there will you know if you are being treated by a physio with 20+ years experience or a wet behind the ears, not yet learned bedside manners, junior doctor… and both would be clinicians. Hope your ankle improves soon 🤗

Well that certainly makes it very plain - ie they've deliberately applied a general title and will try and get away with the lowest level possible person that might just be capable of the task in hand.

Though, obviously, there are people of differing skills levels at point on the spectrum - remembering the way there are three levels of people that deal with feet (from beautician level up to podiatrist) and it was a podiatrist that recently made a painful mess of partial nail avulsion (ie removing part of nail - to deal with ingrown toenail) and a lowest level woman subsequently that helped put right that bodge job to some extent.

SallyatBaytree Tue 18-Feb-25 07:35:41

It may well be that the team you are referred to share out cases when they meet ( Multidisciplinary meeting) based on who is best qualified to deal with each individual case : in a former life I was in a MDT where referred in cases were discussed and allocated.

silverlining48 Tue 18-Feb-25 17:34:30

When you meet the clinician you can ask for their specific qualifications.
Or like most, you are just happy to have an appointment.
I have never been told specifically who I am seeing, the only information given on the letter is the name of the consultant in charge who you may or may not see.
As for ‘ getting the lowest person that just might be capable ‘ that is just ridiculous.