Assisted dying bill

In what way is this bill being rushed through?

This bill is not being rushed through. It is being thoroughly scrutinised and debated. What other reasons do you have for wanting it to be stopped, Winefride17?

I don’t think this is an awful bill at all. The vast majority of the population have consistently agreed they want this choice.
It has not been rushed.



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The latest wording of the bill:

For the purposes of this Act, a person is terminally ill if—
(a) the person has an inevitably progressive illness or disease which cannot
be reversed by treatment, and
(b) the person's death in consequence of that illness or disease can 5
reasonably be expected within six months.

How does this equate to "sweeping inclusion of those not at end of life stage"? Serious question to the OP.

Catholic pro life .... says everything

If someone doesn't want to live, they should be allowed to peacefully end their life. Nobody else's business.

Macadia

If someone doesn't want to live, they should be allowed to peacefully end their life. Nobody else's business.

It is if someone else has to end their life...

Yes, Keepingquiet. That should not be allowed. It would have to be a self administered method.

If a person must be over the age of 18 to use this method, how are parents going to answer questions about this from children? And why would a society let children die in horrible pain but not elderly. Now I'm confused.

For those who are simply left to die an agonising death when no amount of pain relief covers what they are having to LIVE with, in my opinion, is barbaric and heartless.

It is fascinating that it seems fine for certain religions to be used as a slur. I am against this bill and left the labour party because of it, the main reason being my concern for the vulnerable but one of the other reasons was the intolerance of many of its supporters.

I’m torn on this one. I’m watching my poor husband die every day with Alzhimers and it’s been years.

Some days he’s in torment and can’t get peace. Wandering around the house exhausted but he can’t sit down pacing pacing pacing til we’re both so exhausted.

I have every activity known to man to encourage him to settle for a while. Some days it works others not.

He’s non verbal he’s just makes sounds but I feel he’s trying to say something to me and he’s is so distressed at times it’s heart breaking.

Would he agree to this bill?

I think I he would. But it won’t help others affected by this illness.

If I'm right I think this bill is only for terminally Ill people.
Why ? Everyone should have the right to end their lives if they can't cope with their illness anymore.

Leaving people in terrible pain and a slow death is barbaric.

Totally agree with Nanato3. The cruelty of people who can’t face their mortality.

Granniesunite

Any Assisted Dying Bill should be alongside a national strategy on funded full palliative end of life care available to all. That provides proper choice between those two options. So many people dont have the choice of high quality palliative care. Shocking!

I totally agree Madgran.

I support the bill wholeheartedly but do also agree that high standard palliative care should also be available to those who want that route.

I personally am in support of this bill and have lobbyed my "useless" member of parliament. I do not want to go into care as did several of my family I want the choice. If catholics do not agree then they can can choose their own way to spent their last days/years in ill health, terminal illness etc. It should be down to each individual. I would never let a pet suffer the way my parents/relatives did and I definitely do not want the same fir myself. I gor one will cheer when/if the bill gets passed.

Macadia

Yes, Keepingquiet. That should not be allowed. It would have to be a self administered method.

Suicide is not a crime. Anyone can end their own life. This bill is for those who no longer have the capacity to end their life.

I'm not going to go into detail here because even now it's too painful...my mum was diagnosed with a particular disease, despite a regime of various medications, it was confirmed that the disease was 'drug resistant' and her condition was terminal. It was suggested to me that she could be transferred from the hospital to a hospice, after talking to her, we both decided that being at home was the best thing...at that point her prognosis was 4 to 6 weeks. She died 8 months later and I'm convinced that being at home, helped us to have that extra time and I truly cherish all of it.. nothing was left unsaid.
However, her death was utterly appalling and she died screaming at me to help her, she was absolutely terrified and there was nothing I could do except hold her. This wasn't pain...it was something else.
In the aftermath of it all, I spoke to the Doctor and asked why nobody had told me about what could happen, he explained that death didn't always occur in that manner with her condition but even if she'd have been in hospital etc, there was nothing that could have been done for her.
In the final weeks of her life, she often spoke to me about wanting things to end, mentally it destroyed her......
So, while I totally agree with the argument for good palliative care, even that, in some cases isn't enough and while I appreciate that some people have a strong religious belief, I also believe they have no right to use that belief to cause distress and suffering to others....

Stepgranonabroomstick

Macadia

Yes, Keepingquiet. That should not be allowed. It would have to be a self administered method.

Suicide is not a crime. Anyone can end their own life. This bill is for those who no longer have the capacity to end their life.

I understood it will still require the person to 'press the button' or whatever, it is not going to be activated by a third person. That rules out the paralysed.
As in the case of Granniesunite's husband those without the mental capacity to request this end will not benefit from it. And children are excluded their pain and distress is to be endured until the end.
I have great misgivings about the whole bill, I'm not convinced there will be enough safeguards from misuse. Didn't one of those who spoke at the hearings say it wouldn't really matter if a few grannies got pressured by their families into ending it sooner rather than later? You know sacrificed for the greater good.

Granniesunite it's an awful situation for you and your husband.

What do you mean exactly? I am confused.

This bill is neither terrible of rushed and the safeguards will mean it’s not abused. It’s a disgrace that someone with mental capacity who is experiencing intolerable suffering doesn’t have the right to die. I know Catholics who agree with the proposed bill BTW.