Assisted dying bill

Granniesunite

I’m torn on this one. I’m watching my poor husband die every day with Alzhimers and it’s been years.

Some days he’s in torment and can’t get peace. Wandering around the house exhausted but he can’t sit down pacing pacing pacing til we’re both so exhausted.

I have every activity known to man to encourage him to settle for a while. Some days it works others not.

He’s non verbal he’s just makes sounds but I feel he’s trying to say something to me and he’s is so distressed at times it’s heart breaking.

Would he agree to this bill?

I think I he would. But it won’t help others affected by this illness.

Do you have the support of a local Admiral Nurse & Hopsiscare I wonder? My heart goes out to you, I emphasise so well as I have been there twice.

Madgran77

Any Assisted Dying Bill should be alongside a national strategy on funded full palliative end of life care available to all. That provides proper choice between those two options. So many people dont have the choice of high quality palliative care. Shocking!

I also totally agree.

I think assisted dying should be allowed but I am not sure the current bill goes far enough.

We had to watch my grandmother suffer greatly with terminal cancer. She had no quality of life and begged us to give her some means of ending it, but because she was well cared for she lingered long and died an excruciatingly uncomfortable death. I would not wish that for myself or anyone else.

When my husband's cancer was terminal we told our children if the got to much for him I would help him died. Both my husband and I firmly believed it's quality of life not quantity that counts . In 2003 we had enough morphine tablets and liquid to kill few herds of elephants . I would have over dosed him if he asked as our McMillan nurse already total us any higher dose than he was on would kill him so knew how much to give him . He became unconscious before I could help him and put on a morphine pump. My husband died in agony unable to breath on full oxygen at home with me and our children. I had to tell him to stop and we would be ok he died couple of minutes later. But there is never an ok. Nurses told us even if a person is unconscious they can still hear I know he was waiting for me to let go.

My dad wanted to died months before he did and only hung on because my mom wasn't ready to let go . I would have helped him if he asked .

If my mom knew what the dementia would do to her she would have wanted her life to end . My mom died 4 months before her body. And it was 4 months I would hate anyone to go through.

We have free will and if we want to die than inflect extra pain on ourselves and those who love us then we have the right to choose. I have already decided what to do if I have no quality of life as I will not let my daughter go through what I did with my husband ,parents and mother in law.

People don't let their pets suffer if they have a terminal illness or no quality of life . And yet we let people suffer in agony .

Death in my experience is not pretty it's horrific and watching your loved ones dieing their bodies become skeletal . I have watched 4 people die and everytime it was the same . I will not let my daughter go through that ..She already saw to an extent what her dad went through . But neither of our children know the real horror their dad went through . We protected them from the worst. But they where with me when I told they're dad to stop and saw him die few minutes later and left our bedroom straight away. They where 20 and 16.

No one knows what they will want to do until they are dieing and everyone has the right to die how they want . Morphine dose not stop the pain even on the highest dose .

This is just my experience before anyone jumps on me and tells me I am wrong . Assisted dieing is everyone's right if that's what they want . If they want to let nature take it's course then that is their right also.

Nanato3

If I'm right I think this bill is only for terminally Ill people.
Why ? Everyone should have the right to end their lives if they can't cope with their illness anymore.

Leaving people in terrible pain and a slow death is barbaric.

Well Said!!

I'm all for it.

If my dog was suffering I could be charged with cruelty and yet a person is allowed to suffer because they are human?

My grandad lived his last few years with us and he died in pain from Bowel Cancer, I would see his potty every morning full of blood, but never mind hey? He's a human being, the morphine couldn't keep the pain at bay, he just has to keep going until his body gives out. He asked my mum to end it. He died, 4/1/89, 86 years old, mum and my sister at his side, at the local cottage hospital. Where is the dignity in that?

We aren't religious, but IS THAT what God wants? People to die in such unbearable pain?

Tough, not for me!

I am not a Catholic but l find your post offensive.
Would you have made such a comment had it been Muslim faith.?

Agree MBM

SheepIzzy never mentioned catholic so why is it offensive. I am an atheist. And been told by a member of the church of England I will burn in the fires of hell. I pointed out as I don't believe in any gods therefore don't believe in hell. But I will burn when they cremate me.

I don't force my atheist views on anyone and would never tell a religious person of any faith they are wrong to believe .

We have free will to believe in what is right for us .

As a Christian I believe in one God, so to mock God is to mock
my God

I don't mock your God, Anniebach, or anyone else's. I am conflicted about whether there is a God. When the chips are down, I pray. However, I found it really difficult to understand how a loving, forgiving God can allow such terrible things to happen and the argument about free will falls down. There are good people suffering with the most terrible afflictions who had no choice or free will. I can't believe a truly loving, forgiving God wouldn't forgive them for saying they couldn't stand the last pain and indignity.

Assisted dieing is everyone's right if that's what they want . If they want to let nature take it's course then that is their right also.

This is how I feel about it. I want a choice when the time comes and I may or may not take advantage of assisted dying if it is available. Any religious beliefs that I hold may well be set aside if I face an end of life challenge that I can't endure. It is right that this bill should be scrutinised though. Assisted dying is a new concept for the UK and the longterm consequences are as yet untested. I welcome the choice being given to the terminally ill but I suspect that, in time, other conditions will be included. In principle, I support it but with caution.

It's a pity about Roman Catholicism's bossy tendency.

icanhandthemback I do understand thank you.

I so remember as a child visiting a churchyard, there was one grave behind the back of the church, I asked why and was told
‘at that time suicides could not be buried in concentrated ground !

Don’t want to be preachy , Christ in great pain called out
“My God, my God why have you forsaken me” . He knew the depths of physical suffering.

Free will ? Tricky, murder ? Theft ?

Have a joyful Easter

It's nobody else's business when and how I decide to die.

It us everyone's business to protects the rights of those with disabilities, those who may be coerced.

Much faith in a law in favour of assisted dying being adhered to?

And you, Anniebach.

There are so many Gods whose followers believe in’ their’ God as the one true God, , but they can’t all be right.

For me, Good Friday, Christ son of God was crucified.

Silver Lining wrote:

"There are so many Gods whose followers believe in’ their’ God as the one true God, , but they can’t all be right.".

Indeed they are not all right. Jesus Christ is more truly iconic than any other god.

Granniesunite, there is medication to allay severe agitation of mood.
Please excuse me . My friend in hospital terminally ill was become agitated and I consulted ward sister who told me this.

Galaxy, do you accuse me of this lack? If so then say so . I don''t tolerate hints and vague suggestions.

Caleo I think the meds you mean are anti psychotics which are powerful and should be prescribed only in the most extenuating circumstances.

I wasn't talking to you caleo, I think generally those who support the bill have failed to address/ understand the risks. I am afraid I think it us a bill led by the privileged ( and I hate that word!)