Chickenpox Vaccine,

Unfortunately a baby has died from whooping cough , terrible news.
The Sunday times reports " a baby whose mother was not vaccinated against whooping cough has died after contracting the disease. The death is the first confirmed in the U.K. this year and coincides with rapidly declining vaccination rates. "
Such sad news.

Related issue perhaps of interest to grans?: There is some evidence that shingles vaccination may contribute to preventing dementia.

Safe and effective?

Not all of us are lefties

Lovemylife

It’s a live vaccine, so not suitable for everyone. My DGS, 7 months, is currently immunocompromised but hopefully by the time his jabs are due his immune system will be normal. His mum, DD, will take advice from the consultant about all jabs, including mmr.
We’ve all been grateful for the long summer where he’s been able to be outside.
Herd immunity is so important for those who can’t have jabs.

Your GS will be safer if the majority have the vaccine. Let’s hope they do.

Jeannied

Not all of us are lefties

What does that have to do with vaccinations?

Lovemylife

It’s a live vaccine, so not suitable for everyone. My DGS, 7 months, is currently immunocompromised but hopefully by the time his jabs are due his immune system will be normal. His mum, DD, will take advice from the consultant about all jabs, including mmr.
We’ve all been grateful for the long summer where he’s been able to be outside.
Herd immunity is so important for those who can’t have jabs.

My godson (45) is the same, and the school would send him home at the first signs and warn everyone, so pregnant mums could be aware. But measles, rubella and chickenpox parties were common and poor little love was left out. But HIS protection was that the entire village was pretty much safe for him.

My sister had horrendous shingles after the jab. It was mainly in her head and eyes and lasted 5 months. The can stick all of the vaccinations. Its all about the money. £35 for the doctor for every covid jab administered. As for me, no jabs whatsoever. Covid, no jabs, no masks, no tests, no social distancing and most important no COVID. that goes for all my family too.

Jeannied

My sister had horrendous shingles after the jab. It was mainly in her head and eyes and lasted 5 months. The can stick all of the vaccinations. Its all about the money. £35 for the doctor for every covid jab administered. As for me, no jabs whatsoever. Covid, no jabs, no masks, no tests, no social distancing and most important no COVID. that goes for all my family too.

I really hope you are in the USA and not the UK as I don't want to run into you or your family in the next pandemic.

I never got chickenpox as a child despite going to chickenpox parties, but did get it in my thirties from my children, it was awful, a raging temp that wouldn’t go down, vomiting, and spots the size of boils all over me, in my ears and on my eyelids. Took ages to recover.
My DDs got their little ones vaccinated as as soon as they could, cost a lot of money but I reckon is worth it, had a GS who got measles before he was old enough to have the jab, he was hospitalised and was dreadful to see the suffering he went through. After that DDs accepted any jabs that were available for their children.
The whole idea is to eradicate childhood illnesses, especially those that can be fatal like whooping cough or measles, but without parents taking up the vaccine for their children there will never be herd immunity.

Jeannied

My sister had horrendous shingles after the jab. It was mainly in her head and eyes and lasted 5 months. The can stick all of the vaccinations. Its all about the money. £35 for the doctor for every covid jab administered. As for me, no jabs whatsoever. Covid, no jabs, no masks, no tests, no social distancing and most important no COVID. that goes for all my family too.

If none of your family are vaccinated how come your 'sister' had shingles after a vaccination? Are you being economic with the actuality?

I am SOO pro-vaccine for those who are able:

We had several TB outbreaks from migrants, after a court case decided that routine x-ray was an infringement of civil liberties! (A few have happened more recently in the Leicester area). Polio was prevalent when I was a child, and I lost a classmate, and another was seriously damaged.

I have had pretty serious doses of measles and whooping cough (which my premie baby contracted too). We were both critical for a while. The news has reported a baby death this week - I was lucky that my GP caught it on a routine visit and took the risk of anti-virals for us.

I'm in Ireland, but like UK, chickenpox vaccine was only available privately. However, I encouraged all my AC to get the vaccine for their children, as I know someone whose 2 year old was severely brain damaged by chickenpox, and subsequently died. Even though such a bad outcome is rare, if it can be avoided by vaccination, it's worth it.

The other thing vaccination prevents is the scarring caused by chickenpox. Many people have lifelong scars on their face caused by infection.

I think it’s because it’s been available before but only if you paid privately.

… sorry was replying to Prinrose53 & forgot to quote!

Both my grandchildren had chickenpox recently, fortunately they weren't very poorly but it did mean that my daughter had to take quite a while off work. I remember having it as a child, feeling awful and itching like mad. All four of my children caught it at the same time and weren't very ill but unfortunately I ended up with shingles. I do wonder if the reduction in cases of chicken pox will reduce the number who get shingles, or if you can still pass the virus on even if you don't catch it yourself?

FranP

I am SOO pro-vaccine for those who are able:

We had several TB outbreaks from migrants, after a court case decided that routine x-ray was an infringement of civil liberties! (A few have happened more recently in the Leicester area). Polio was prevalent when I was a child, and I lost a classmate, and another was seriously damaged.

I have had pretty serious doses of measles and whooping cough (which my premie baby contracted too). We were both critical for a while. The news has reported a baby death this week - I was lucky that my GP caught it on a routine visit and took the risk of anti-virals for us.

I had a teaching contract some years ago and everyone who worked at the college had to have a chest X-ray to rule out TB.

Foxyferret

I heard on the BBC news the jab was £150 and won’t be free on the NHS until next year.

It'll be launched next January through GP surgeries in England. Scotland yet to confirm

Well the 'anti-vaxxers' are starting up - one of them, that is. And I would start by saying that the term 'anti-vaxxer' is divisive, it's a nasty, silly label, that shuts down discussion and inquiry. It makes us sound like a heretical sect. Anyone who believes that all vaccinations are a good thing simply has not done their research and is listening too much to the BBC and the usual media outlets, and not to the many experts who are calling out the damage vaccines are doing and being scapegoated in the process. Sorry, I don't have the details to hand but anyone who is not being dogmatic about this can do their own research. I haven't researched the chickenpox vaccine but I think it is ridiculous to assault infant immune systems with a vaccine (possibly containing harmful chemicals) against a disease which can, admittedly, be unpleasant, but not fatal. Childhood cancers are on the increase, as are cancers in young adults. There are some scientists who believe that vaccines are to blame for some of this. Better to have some trust in the natural strength of a healthy, well-nourished young body.

Definitely with you Jeannied

I feel we need to be more explicit about the benefits (and obligations) of living in a country with established values of communal health and education provision. It is not 'socialist' only, just a way we have evolved of sharing risks and benefits. Similarly about the fact that UK values men, women and children equally before the law. 'Rotherham'... would not have happened had 'our' Police realised that neglected, silly, needy girls in care still were entitled to their rights under the law. (Dismounting from soapbox directly).

I was curious as to whether you can get shingles after having the chicken pox jab.
Google says yes it is still possible to get shingles and people still need to have the shingles vaccination when eligible.
However the risk of getting shingles is reduced compared with catching the virus naturally. 🤔

My daughter was extremely ill at 5 years old with chicken pox. Off school for a full month. She had all the vaccines required. I think, as previously stated, everyone used to vaccinated at school. This worked so well, follow on generations are unaware that these so called "childhood" illnesses can be fatal.
We live in a very small world now and travel widely, allowing people not vaccinated, to bring these various illnesses back.

Everyone who has had chickenpox has the herpes zoster virus 'dormant' in their system. It can reactivate causing many different problems. The most well known is shingles followed by facial neuralgia.

Most adults will have had chickenpox as children but the virus lies dormant and can re-occur as shingles later in life. If all children got vaccinated against chickenpox, they would not get shingles later.