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From Frail to Hale and Hearty

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Tizliz Thu 11-Dec-25 12:34:29

I have Parkinson's and there is no doubt I have lost weight. I am not hungry/can't be bothered.

My consultant gave me a sheet called From Frail to Hale and Hearty. It is the worst diet ever - apart from having no chocolate on it. Where are the fresh green veg, fruit etc.

It is all scotch eggs, pork pies, fried eggs etc. No water, must be at least tea with milk or juices, milk shakes.

I have enough trouble cooking and eating our usual foods - we try and make everything from scratch and grill not fry.

He also told my husband that it was more important for me to gain weight than for him to lose weight.

It also feels like too much pressure and stress which makes me less likely to eat.

Does anyone else have this problem?

fancythat Sat 13-Dec-25 10:49:32

There are different ways to be healthy.

In this case "From Frail to Hale and Hearty".

Tizliz Sat 13-Dec-25 12:23:52

Diet sheet

Lathyrus3 Sat 13-Dec-25 13:14:14

I can’t actually read that. It’s fuzzy on my pad.

But I hereby confess that the one I’ve been going on about is a totally different one😳😳😳😳

I put in ‘Frail to Hale and hearty diet sheet” into Google and then pontificated about the one that came up.

Apologies all round🤭

Goldieoldie15 Sat 13-Dec-25 13:35:35

ever thought of changing your day job Monica? I hear Hectors International are recruiting.
Just saying.

Tizliz Sat 13-Dec-25 13:37:07

Think it has been photo copied too many times.

At the moment I am trying to eat more of my usual meals with milkshakes instead of water and having a pudding in the evenings.

It is difficult to undo years of learning to eat healthy but I am trying.

Tizliz Sat 13-Dec-25 13:38:57

Goldieoldie15

ever thought of changing your day job Monica? I hear Hectors International are recruiting.
Just saying.

That's not fair. I appreciate all comments and efforts to help. The comparison to reading big chunks of text was very good.

Lathyrus3 Sat 13-Dec-25 13:39:38

I’m really glad to hear that Tizliz.

I hope you understand I have been worried about you🙂

Lathyrus3 Sat 13-Dec-25 13:41:01

I mean that you’re trying to eat more.

Not glad about that unpleasant comment about MOnica

Tizliz Sat 13-Dec-25 13:44:15

Lathyrus3

I’m really glad to hear that Tizliz.

I hope you understand I have been worried about you🙂

Thank you and to everyone who are trying to help

Tizliz Sat 13-Dec-25 14:17:48

this is readable

www.nhshighland.scot.nhs.uk/media/3nllhvqs/from-frail-to-hale-and-hearty.pdf

HelterSkelter1 Sat 13-Dec-25 14:55:09

Macmillan Cancer Relief has a good on line leaflet. I think it is called Build You Up. From memory it has suggested meals.

Allira Sat 13-Dec-25 15:20:39

Tea with all milk 🤮

Sorry, Tizliz, don't let me put you off!

Allira Sat 13-Dec-25 15:26:04

M0nica

Allira

M0nica

I think far too often the NHS when writing all these help and advice sheets do not actually use experts to design their sheets so that the information when given is presented will lead people to read the bits that matter and own play other pars.

Often when I am looking up something medical, a charity will produce a really helpful leaflet because it has been well designed and presented by people who understand design and how to attractpeople's eyes to the parts that matter.

So much NHS litereaature isn't designed at all and people read the information incorrectly, then they get the blame for concentrating on the non essentials

The diets are worked out by NHS dietitians!

I am sure they are. The problem isn't with the recommended diets, the problem is often the way they are set out on the paper or website for the potential user.

To give you an example using a non-medical GN example. Most people on here have learnt that online postings are best written in short paragraphs, with a oneline space between each paragraph.

Every so often we get a huge screed from the OP. screens of it, no paragraphs, little punctuation, often written at times of deep emotion. Notice how often someone has posted in reply that they feel for the OP would like to sympathise but simply couldn't manage to read that huge chunk of prose, unbroken by paragraphs.

As has often been said 'It is not what you say, its the way that you say it'. The same with print. It is often not what you write, which may be impeccably correct and written by a world expert on the subject, but if put on paper or screen, without thought for presentation, that enables the information to be accessable and understood by its intended audience, is a complete waste of time and effort.

The problem isn't with the recommended diets, the problem is often the way they are set out on the paper or website for the potential user.

From my point of view, the problem with this one is some of the recommended foods. The thought of trying to eat or drink some of them if your appetite is depressed for any reason is off-putting.
The title 'From Hale to Hearty' is off-putting too, for someone who has been diagnosed with an illness. It's as if they are saying, just follow this diet sheet and you will become robust, vigorous and strong!

Farmor15 Sat 13-Dec-25 15:56:43

I've realised as I get older that being a few pounds overweight (pounds, not stones!) may be better than being underweight, as if you get a bout of illness, at least you have something to lose.
I thought that info sheet was actually pretty good - you don't have to eat everything on it!