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From Frail to Hale and Hearty

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Tizliz Thu 11-Dec-25 13:29:28

Lathyrus3

I ve looked up the Frail to Hale and Hearty diet sheet Tuzliz.

There’s a whole range of foods there they they suggest.

It by no means suggests only scotch eggs and pork pies, it’s got lots of suggestions for other tasty ways of putting on some weight.

Are you sure you’re not dismissing it for other reasons!

I know it is lack of interest and I am trying. I think the sheet if for people who don't cook but I have always cooked. Working up the enthusiasm is difficult. I only got it on Tuesday so am working my way through. I don't like being nagged though and OH nags - I know it is only concern.

If I snack during the day I can't eat main meals - catch 22

I am just trying to get my thoughts into order. It is a big enough shock to have Parkinson's confirmed.

CariadAgain Thu 11-Dec-25 13:27:28

Is nut butter possible? - calorific and healthy. Is making a dressing for something (eg vegetables) with tahini possible?
Are things like cocoa made with full-fat milk, sweetened with real honey possible?

Is hummus possible - I should imagine those readymade ones are pretty calorific and that could be dolloped on all sorts of savoury stuff?

CariadAgain Thu 11-Dec-25 13:22:20

I'd have thought fresh green veg could have been cooked - and then served with generous dollop of butter or healthy type mayonnaise.

Then fruit as maybe a crumble (sweetened with real honey) and generous helping of cream with it.

Most of us have to watch it re the amount of butter and cream we have - but if the whole idea is to pack in extra calories....then that could be a way?

teabagwoman Thu 11-Dec-25 13:21:10

I can understand you looking at that diet sheet in horror but it does sound as though you need to eat a high calorie diet pretty urgently. In my experience frequent, small meals work best. Could you make a start by focusing on full fat milk, yogurt, cream and cheese. You could also try adding extra milk powder into soups, milk puddings etc. it is difficult when you don’t feel like eating but many people find that their appetite improves once they manage to get their calorie intake up. Don’t worry about fruit and veg for a bit, your body will cope.

fancythat Thu 11-Dec-25 13:19:03

A bit of a cross post with lathyrus3.

fancythat Thu 11-Dec-25 13:18:10

My dad had Parkinsons.
As far as I can remember he didnt have a diet sheet.
Though he was probably normal weight, or a little over.

I googled Parkinson diet sheet and all sorts of things came up.
Including advice from the Parkinsons website.

But I am guessing, that your GP gave you that particular sheet for a particular reason.

Maybe next time you are in there, you can query things with him?

Lathyrus3 Thu 11-Dec-25 13:15:56

I ve looked up the Frail to Hale and Hearty diet sheet Tuzliz.

There’s a whole range of foods there they they suggest.

It by no means suggests only scotch eggs and pork pies, it’s got lots of suggestions for other tasty ways of putting on some weight.

Are you sure you’re not dismissing it for other reasons!

Lathyrus3 Thu 11-Dec-25 13:09:50

Dairy ice cream, made with cream not vegetable fats, slithers down and is calorie packed.

But you have the diet sheet. Try to find some things that you like.

Astitchintime Thu 11-Dec-25 13:07:59

I would hate to be on such a diet……why promote the consumption of such processed foods? Surely there’s better ways of putting weight on?

Lathyrus3 Thu 11-Dec-25 13:06:31

Not arguing with you Nandalot, but I believe that high protein can actually be harmful when a patient has reached this stage in her=nutrition because the kidneys and other organs don’t have the resources to deal with it,

Calories, especially essential fats first and carbohydrates come first.

Tizliz Thu 11-Dec-25 13:04:14

I am eating but probably 2/3rds of what I used to eat. I had a mild dose of Covid back in August and didn't eat for 3 days which is what started all this.

I was not overweight to start with. Always been one of these people who can eat what they like.

It is the lack of interest which is the problem. Better when OH cooks but he is a bit limited.

Nandalot Thu 11-Dec-25 12:52:37

What about some of these high protein drinks, like Huey. or even the old standby, Complan, as supplements to your diet? DH had to be on a liquid diet recently and used these. He also found the high protein instant soups called Fuel very palatable.

Lathyrus3 Thu 11-Dec-25 12:46:33

Bviously he is very concerned about your lost weight and is just concentrating on getting the calories in.

Without a necessary amount of daily calories your body will use up its fat reserves and start devouring your internal organs. I guess you must be very close to this threshold if he is so concerned.

You need to eat more calorific food.

Tizliz Thu 11-Dec-25 12:34:29

I have Parkinson's and there is no doubt I have lost weight. I am not hungry/can't be bothered.

My consultant gave me a sheet called From Frail to Hale and Hearty. It is the worst diet ever - apart from having no chocolate on it. Where are the fresh green veg, fruit etc.

It is all scotch eggs, pork pies, fried eggs etc. No water, must be at least tea with milk or juices, milk shakes.

I have enough trouble cooking and eating our usual foods - we try and make everything from scratch and grill not fry.

He also told my husband that it was more important for me to gain weight than for him to lose weight.

It also feels like too much pressure and stress which makes me less likely to eat.

Does anyone else have this problem?