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crimson Mon 14-Nov-11 14:11:27

Realised last week that I had mice in my utility room. Cleaned up all the mess and bought one of those plug in mouse deterrents only to find this morning a mouse in the humane trap happily eating it's chocolate button next to the plug in; obviously doesn't work [although had one in my partners flat that seemed to work]. Spoke to a few people who'd had a similar problem [is there a big problem with mice this year; we even had them at work] and they all said they had to resort to poison, having tried all the humane stuff. Anyone else had this problem? I've got a bad feeling they've been in the living room as well, although everything I see now looks like a mouse dropping confused.

Gally Tue 29-Nov-11 18:54:47

Daughter No.2 spent 5 weeks here in the summer and on her return to Sydney found that a family of rats had taken up residence in the house. The Rat Man was called pronto and he put down poison and traps under the house and in the roof but thought that they wouldn't be back now the house was occupied by humans again. Luckily they hadn't got into the childrens' rooms and had probably appeared from the newly installed chimney. She had to burn the rugs they had been nesting on - ugh. Australia may be a lovely place to bring up a family, but there are an awful lot of nasties to be aware of. shock

Annobel Tue 29-Nov-11 18:36:20

In Kenya we had small rats that lived in our roofs and rarely dared to come down into the houses, especially if cats were resident. One hot Christmas holiday, my (then) fiancé and I put the cats in the cattery and went off to camp at the coast. When we got back and opened doors and drawers, rats jumped out and over-ran the place. After I'd stopped trembling and screaming, I got the cats back and the rats knew when they were beaten. I had to throw a lot of stuff out and boil wash the rest. shock

JessM Tue 29-Nov-11 18:11:31

I call that cruel and unusual treatment of a tenant...

Gally Tue 29-Nov-11 17:47:38

Probably peeking out from under a floorboard and taking notes as to where the other glue boards are I should think Josie. You may be lucky, but.....hmm

JosieGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 29-Nov-11 17:29:31

Well, dontcallme, on Friday, my landlord told the pest people to come in and put poison down (or so I thought). Unbeknownst to me, they laid glue traps and on Saturday morning I was stuck (no pun intended...) with having to deal with two alive (!!!) mice on a glue board on my kitchen floor.

Suffice to say it was completely beyond me and I stuck a shoebox over the top of them and asked someone else to deal with it.

Urgh, the squeaking, the blinking, watching them try to move... Completely awful.

The other two glue boards they laid have stayed clean though, so maybe they've been scared off by the death of their friends... Is this wishful thinking?

dontcallmegramps Tue 29-Nov-11 16:54:12

What's the latest on the mouse situation?
been quiet on this for a while.
we have not caught any more and no bait is being taken.

On "the ill wind that blows... etc" front
in my ruthlessly thorough turning out of the loft to find their holes etc have found a forgotten/lost 2.5 Litre tin of paint and a huge tub of tile cement/grout!
Both of which were on the homebase "we need to get the house freshened up for christmas" list so quite a second prize

The charity shop has taken delivery of a stack of unwanted books too...

JessM Tue 22-Nov-11 16:42:39

That is horrible nannygetspaid I think maybe you need to get the rodent control people in and block up any holes in the building, around pipework etc.

Here's a rat story, she says, distracting herself from proofreading again...
My niece, when she was about 10 and her sister just born, had a very nice pet rat. She was intelligent, charming and very tame. They lived in London, 3 doors away from a large Victorian cemetery. And it was summer.
The rat cage was kept on the kitchen floor and the back door was often open.
One day my sister was on the phone and announced that the rat seemed to have a boyfriend. it was something about flour on the floor and rat footprints...
Oh, says scientific sister, mmm, well I think you are going to have to have your rat put down. Wild rats carry Weil's disease, you can catch it from their wee, and a male rat, climbing all over the pet girl rats cage will have been weeing away like anything - and the disease is really nasty and potentially fatal. You can't take the risk.
So they took my advice and the sweet pet rat was put down (i guess the vet saw my point of view) . There followed an outpouring of grief. Not just niece but my sister, who cried and cried for days. And also the woman who bred the rat was told, and she was grief stricken too.
I felt bad, but knew that my advice was right. Would not have forgiven myself if children had been made ill. Sharing space with rats not a good idea.

nannysgetpaid Tue 22-Nov-11 15:43:46

I don't mind mice but the other night I was in our office (on an industrial estate) sitting at my computer when a large rat ran past me . It came from the toilet direction. My big sons thought that I had imagined it but later the eldest went upstairs and it ran across his foot. We put poison down and have not seen it since but we are all obsessed. If My DD goes to the loo she sings loudly (and very out of tune) to let the rat know she is there. Just writing about this makes me watch around my feet. My dislike of them comes from when I was nursing in Germany and they ran up and down the walls between our rooms. shock

bagitha Tue 22-Nov-11 15:41:17

Thanks for the tip, dcm.

dontcallmegramps Tue 22-Nov-11 15:33:03

Agree JessM get professional grade poison.

Crimson get blocking those holes! and really - go glue!

Think it's worthwhile really cleaning the breakback traps with disinfectant/bleach to remove any chemical panic signals the dead mouse gave off.

When we catch a mouse in a snap trap, before we reuse it I always make a little mark on the side to count the kills ( rather like notches on the gun belt or little crosses on the sides of WW2 fighter planes)- I know small things etc

JessM Tue 22-Nov-11 15:12:40

Sounds like a population explosion. These things happen in the natural world from time to time. Early warm spring and a mild autumn might have done it.

As i posted earlier, sometimes the only answer is rat poison (not yr lightweight mouse poison) placed out of reach of pets. It is not nice but if you are invaded then they may be breeding faster than you are picking them off!

bagitha Tue 22-Nov-11 13:39:44

Glad you're catching some anyway. What do you do with the live ones you catch?

The advantage of traditional killer traps is that you don't have the getting rid problem, nor the sterilising problem — a quick scrub under the tap is adequate I find and then reload for the next night. We've been using the same three for several years.

crimson Tue 22-Nov-11 13:32:56

They were walking into one humane trap, eating the food and walking out again! As for the humane traps that work, I hadn't thought about the fact that, once I've caught one I have to clean and sterilise the whole thing before I can put it back, because of the mess they make. Ok if you've got one rogue mouse, but when you're catching several [or several hundred..] it's not an option. Caught several each night in the utility room; none in the living room or loft. Have got to blitz the whole house so I can work out the extent of the infestation. Put talcum powder round the base of the radiators where they go into the floorboards so I can see if they're popping up from there. What I don't understand about the loft is that I've read that they won't travel far from their nest, so if they have been in the loft they're not coming in from the garden. A friend of my partners, a real countryman says that there is a massive problem with mice this year, which is what I suspected when I found that all the mouse traps had sold out from the local shop. The house needed a blitz anyway but I'm having a problem doing it along with my jobs and childminding! Maybe the plug in deterrent is working; I put it in the loft thinking that, if they were there it would push them downwards rather than upwards [this is S.A.S. thinking!]. I do like a challenge confused.

bagitha Tue 22-Nov-11 06:47:45

Have you caught any mice yet, crimson?

crimson Mon 21-Nov-11 20:16:03

Check out Dream Alliance. Came back and won the Welsh National after a life threatening injury. They may make a film about him, as he was born and raised on an allotment. It's real tear jerking stuff!

JessM Mon 21-Nov-11 14:31:53

Sounds messy. gluey mice.
Re stem cell treatments I think it is very very early days re their use in people. One rebuilt windpipe and one clinical trial in Korea was the last I read.
If anyone offers miracle treatments for people don't go there.
I will look up the horses. Ethical considerations lower and budgets higher with racehorses...

crimson Sun 20-Nov-11 22:49:55

Being so terrified of the traps I think I may resort to glue boards, awful as they are.

dontcallmegramps Sun 20-Nov-11 22:45:12

Got two of them!
Whoo Hoo... one glue board one with breakback... AND found the hole (from next door's roof space) blocked it so we will see...

crimson Sun 20-Nov-11 20:39:19

Stem cell research is amazing, isn't it. There are quite a few racehorses running today that would have probably been put down with tendon damage if it wasn't for stem cell treatment; very expensive I believe. Am currently putting my B&Q traps everywhere now that the dog has gone away for a few days. They totally freak me out and I have to talk to myself as I'm doing it, telling myself that, as long as my hand is away from the red bit it can't hurt me. Whenever I accidentally set one off I scream the place down.

JessM Sun 20-Nov-11 17:55:21

I just remembered - a few years ago I found a mummified mouse in the garage. It had fallen into a bowl and obviously failed to jump out...
On a different tack... there is an article in New Scientist about stem cells in breast milk. This may prove a very useful source.
It went on to say that they had been studying this phenomenon in mice. Pause while I try to imagine how the hell intrepid researchers managed to collect mouse milk. However well-trained and docile the mice.
Visions of a mouse size milking parlours... Micro breast pumps...

FlicketyB Sat 19-Nov-11 20:38:46

When we had mice we got someone in who put down poison for them. The only problem was they got into the ceiling of our flat roof extention and died their. The living room was virtually unusable for a week from the smell of their decay. Still better that than mice.

JessM Sat 19-Nov-11 13:03:53

Napoleon eat your heart out, Crimson is planning a major campaign! Mice be warned.

crimson Sat 19-Nov-11 11:28:16

All traps empty this morning [and I gleefully went up into the loft expecting blood and gore everywhere]. Dog is going on holiday for a few days next week so I can put traps everywhere.

dontcallmegramps Sat 19-Nov-11 08:57:25

By the way have found that this company was very good

http://4seasonsdiypestcontrol.co.uk/shop/category.asp?catid=17

crimson Fri 18-Nov-11 23:47:39

Had very careful conversation with daughter in front of grandson tonight about my mouse problem, with lots of spelling out of words [spring traps and breaking of necks etc]. Grandson summed it up by saying 'you mean they're eating the apples that you give to me and the birds? That's not right..'