dishwasher advice please

My Bosch dishwasher has given up the ghost. I hate to say this, but I am totally lost without it ??.
I thought that I would sound stupid posting this on Gransnet, Fellow dishwasher owners, you have all made my day.

Our Siemans dishwasher has just died after only four years! Engineer who we called out said plastic base (which has replaced former stainless steel construction) has warped, letting water into the electrics, so machine is a write-off. He says this fault is common to both Bosch and Siemans. I thought they were reliable makes! Research on the web confirms this. Beware!

This is really great! We'll also try this dishwasher.

Two dishwashers in forty years. . Miele is the current one and I've had it for about ten years.the basket filter needed replacing and was expensive and no fun to fit. Otherwise I love it.

I had a Bosch one for 12 years and as it was still working perfectly when I had my kitchen refitted I gave it away to a friend. That was 5 years ago and it is still going. I had another Bosch in my new kitchen and that is brilliant too.

The "eco" programmes take longer because they use less water and less electricity so they need to bash the washing or the dishes longer. (My laywoman's explanation)

I stopped using the eco programme on my washing machine when I read that the eco "60°" programme only heated the water to 27°! That's almost colder than the cold water from the tap!

I have one with a top cutlery tray - by choice. But after a while, I miss the extra height you get when the top couple of inches is not taken up by the tray, and I don't think I'd get one like that again.

I'm in the minority here as I have 2 Smeg dishwashers now 8 years old and working well.

The question is - why as I bought both machines on the same day at the same shop (on the same offer) that the soap dispensers are different?

I have a Neff and has a top cutlery tray. Been in use for six years with no problems. Neff, Miele and Bosch are much of a muchness.

Our, rather old, dishwasher is Bosch. No problems so another recommendation from me.

Ours has an 'auto' setting which we use, either on the full programme or reduced programme if there is not much. We use 70 degrees for roasting tins etc.

I think eco takes longer because the water isn't heated to such a high temperature. I never use it on the dishwasher but use it all the time on the washer since a man on the radio said it was much more economical for the user and better for the environment.

I don’t really understand why the “eco” programme on my Siemens dishwasher takes 2 hours, it does have a quick 30 minutes programme which is fine.

I'm afraid another vote for Miele. We moved 7 years ago leaving a 10 year old Miele behind that had never had any trouble. The current one is 6 years old and has never had any repairs.
I too like the top cutlery tray, but would warn that ours has lost one or two 'teeth'. It is still fine, but I could see it (the tray that is) needing replacing in the next couple of years.
The great thing about Miele is the service and spares - we have just had a new pump fitted to our 13 year old washing machine, its first repair.

My vote is for Miele too. Durable + efficient

I've had a Miele Dishwasher for years. It has a top cutlery tray. It is very reliable and I would recommend Miele.

I use economy with my Bosch all of the time as it takes 30 minutes because the main wash runs for nearly 3 hours.

Our dishwasher came with a deal with the kitchen only cost us £99 and the pots come out spotless no grumbles.
You need to wash on a high temp wash not economy. I remember with our old dishwasher we had a problem one time and the engineer said not to wash on economy all the time because of the grease because it causes a build up and blocks the pipes. I told him I always rinse the pots he said it makes no difference. I also use a cleaner every two months as well.

Miele here with the top cutlery tray . I wouldn't hesitate in getting another one but as they are made to last 20 years it will be a good while .

Ours is a Zanussi and has been reliable for years.

Thank you for al the ideas. We certainly plan to wait until after all the Christmas panic buying and hope for some good deals. John Lewis gets my vote for brilliant delivery service.

We had a new dishwasher fairly recently and are converted to the top cutlery tray - everything comes clean and isn't difficult to fill. It's a bosch.

My son has one with an upper cutlery tray and it is such a fiddle to put all the cutlery in individually. I just drop a few into each section of my basket and that's it. I wouldn't be bothered with one.

Our DD has a Bosch dishwasher which is quiet and washes well but no better than our cheaper one. I'm not keen on the cutlery tray on the top as it seems to take longer to load and unload, also on the economy programme it takes three hours to wash.

We have a JL own brand one (years old now) but I'm not sure who makes them.

Miele definitely. Apart from lasting forever, seems to fit more and have faster cycle than other brands. Well worth the higher price.