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Baggs Tue 01-Jun-21 19:55:50

^If a man is "Sir"

and a woman is "lovey"

what is it then?^

But this isn't what was complained about in the OP. At least, the OP-er did not say she was calling the man sir. She could have answered, for example, "Yes, Your Reverence" to get her point across.

Or she could simply have asked him not to call her young lady. A bit of assertiveness works wonders. Far better than getting all huffy anyway.

Aveline Tue 01-Jun-21 19:55:47

Why not Alegrias it's what I really think? Basically don't sweat the small stuff.

Alegrias1 Tue 01-Jun-21 19:53:10

Aveline

Amazed you're so worked up about this. I'm not so insecure of my identity and worth that it bothers me.

Oh, not this again.

Alegrias1 Tue 01-Jun-21 19:52:45

If a man is "Sir"

and a woman is "lovey"

what is it then?

I have a few words we can use.

Aveline Tue 01-Jun-21 19:52:11

Amazed you're so worked up about this. I'm not so insecure of my identity and worth that it bothers me.

Baggs Tue 01-Jun-21 19:51:14

Or sexism.

Or ageism.

Baggs Tue 01-Jun-21 19:50:55

I don't think it is misogyny.

Summerlove Tue 01-Jun-21 19:47:43

Alegrias1

Not bothered about people being disrespectful? That's what it is. Call me madam! ?

Only uppity people like us care about that.

We really should just relax and let the misogyny reign. ???

Alegrias1 Tue 01-Jun-21 18:42:46

Not bothered about people being disrespectful? That's what it is. Call me madam! ?

Aveline Tue 01-Jun-21 18:39:47

Just not bothered!

Alegrias1 Tue 01-Jun-21 18:37:27

If a man in the queue was addressed as "Sir" and I was addressed as "lovey", I might not have been polite enough to call her "little girl".

Good for you faringdon59.

Talullah Tue 01-Jun-21 18:33:03

My father was often referred to as a spring chicken by his carers when he was anything but. He thought it hilarious. Personally I have no problem with being referred to as anything, Just doesn't bother me.

Tea3 Tue 01-Jun-21 18:26:58

‘Young lady’ riles me. It did at work when I was actually young, and it does now I’m old! The comment seems to come from a particular type of misogynist creep.

Chestnut Tue 01-Jun-21 18:26:45

I would be a bit miffed if someone said 'mind the old lady'.

Chestnut Tue 01-Jun-21 18:19:46

I have never had a problem with being called anything, love, lovey, me duck, darlin', sweetie, my dear, although I never get called gorgeous now!

welbeck Tue 01-Jun-21 14:52:34

good for you.
that is the point i was trying to make on another thread, about familiar terms of address in shops etc.
people were saying it's just friendly, but would they presume to use such familiar terms to higher status people, eg men.
when i got my second jab, the middle-aged man, who did not introduce himself by name or job, called me, my dear.
it rankled with me, but din't feel i could say anything, given the context, grateful for vaccine, never see him again etc.
but i bet he didn't say that to a male person.

faringdon59 Tue 01-Jun-21 14:42:30

For the last month I have been attending an introductory group lesson to learn golf.
I was obviously the oldest in a group of 8 newbies. One other woman in the group, who I would guess is in her 30's or 40's.
A couple of times the male instructor referred to me as "young lady". I ignored it the first time, but this week he made a point of referring to the other woman by her name and me again as "young lady".
Did a sales pitch about the follow on course, but guess who will be going elsewhere for lessons?
In a supermarket queue last week the man in a suit in front of me was addressed as sir but I was called "lovey" three times during the transaction process. At the end I said thanks "little girl", to which the checkout operator looked stunned!