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What are you paying for electricity & Gas

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62Granny Mon 04-Apr-22 21:19:52

There have been many threads on GN about energy prices, but what do you pay per KWh . I recently went onto a fixed rate and pay 32.85 Kwh for electricity with a 24.86 daily standing charge and 8.94KWh for Gas with 26.10 daily standing charge. I know it can vary all depending on where you live in the UK we are in S.Wales. I thought it better to fix my rate so at least I know what I am paying for the next 12 months.

jacalpad Thu 07-Apr-22 09:57:02

We have Bulb for gas and electricity, and are on economy 7. Our combined DD was £96 per month until the end of last year. It was put up to £125 per month. We have not been given a new payment figure from 1 April yet. We live in an average 3 bedroom house, and I do use a tumble drier. I’m not really sure if we are better off on economy 7 or not - nobody seems to be able to tell me!

Moving forward, I am going to try to set the washing machine and dishwasher to come on early in the morning when my electricity is cheaper. I am also going to cut right back on using the tumble drier.

Joyken Thu 07-Apr-22 08:56:38

The price paid for gas and electric is irrelevant its the standing charge I do not agree with especially when you have a dual fuel bill. I also loathe paying road tax include it in the price of fuel therefore if you use the road you pay for it.

LizzieDrip Thu 07-Apr-22 08:44:53

NANCAT: ‘suppliers will have to reduce the kWh cost, but they've managed to increase the standing charge which isn't linked to the wholesale price of energy, so they have managed a backdoor increase that will be permanent. I would like to know the justification for the excessive increase in standing charges. They say it is for infrastructure costs, but how did they double overnight?’

Totally agree! I was so enraged by the increase in standing charge that I emailed Ofgem. As a consumer I have a right to know what my £200+ per year standing charge is being used for. The infrastructure for households receiving energy does not suddenly cost more so why is there a need to increase that cost? I received (an automated) response to the effect that the increase is to cover the cost of the providers that have gone out of business - those same providers that were offering energy at ridiculously low rates that were clearly unsustainable and were supposed to have been regulated by Ofgem!!! Money making businesses men saw the largely unregulated UK energy industry as a cash cow; they set up as energy providers that were not viable; made millions; went bust and we - the energy consumers - are left picking up the bill. This is a failure of Ofgem’s due diligence in their regulatory process and we are all suffering as a result. I am furious by the way we have been conned by the current right wing, economic policies - once again! Energy companies should be NATIONALISED - not left at the mercy of unscrupulous money makers. People need to know this, but all we hear in the mainstream media is that it’s due to the rise in energy prices and is a global crisis. It is not! The rise in standing charge is a direct consequence of the energy ‘free market’ in the UK! Perhaps, in this free market, where the consumer is king, I’ll say ‘do you know what, I’ve decided not to ‘purchase’ the standing charge so won’t be paying for it’ angryangryangry

karmalady Thu 07-Apr-22 08:00:22

you don`t have to argue a change of direct debit with octopus. I requested £10 less a month and it was actioned immediately. Bearing in mind that this dd is only an estimate anyway, of an amount that will cover a full years energy

Hetty58 Thu 07-Apr-22 00:57:04

Do bear in mind that you can argue over your Direct Debit amount - I did. I had a long, tedious conversation with a (poor) British Gas employee. I'd recently increased my DD, from £5 to £20. They informed me it was to go up to £47 - based on my 'projected usage' and the 54% increase.

I said that they don't have the information needed for 'projected usage' (and neither do I) as it depends on:

The weather
The guests
Whether I'm here
and
How careful I am

I said an increase to £30 was ok. They said the 'minimum acceptable amount' was £35. So I said I'd cancel the DD. I agreed to it at the time to get the lowest tariff (no longer applicable with the price cap as they can't increase rates). Then, eventually, they agreed to £30.

Of course, I then demanded/received an apology for treating me like an idiot. I'll pay monthly for what I use - and keep my savings in my bank, thanks all the same, British Gas!

Maggiemaybe Wed 06-Apr-22 23:52:11

We were very lucky, and fixed a 2 year deal in August with Shell, just before it all kicked off. It runs to August 2023.

Electricity standing charge 30.40, per kWh 18.14.
Gas standing charge 15.40, per kWh 3.94.

Our direct debit is £90 per month.

Pearlsaminger Wed 06-Apr-22 23:45:51

I’m on fixed rate for electric with EDF until end of July 22.

But I was with SSE for my gas. They were taken over by OVO and I was migrated over to OVO in February this year.

SSE gave the wrong meter reading to OVO. They gave it as 14921. Which was the amount of credit I had after paying by DD for years.

The true reading was 22000 (can’t remember the last digits.)

But I’m now £1400.00 in debt because SSE messed up! confused

I’ve spoken to OVO. It’s going to take them 12 weeks to rectify. In the meantime I ‘may be threatened with disconnection, or have bailiffs sent to the house if I don’t pay!’

Had nothing from OVO otherwise regarding price increases.

Can anyone tell me if they’re any good or should I change supplier?

Hetty58 Wed 06-Apr-22 23:37:52

I'm paying too much! Rates have just increased 54% (fixed rates finished) - so standard variable, for me (and many others) as few cheaper options are available right now. Still, I'll try my level best to find some. I particularly resent the standing charges:

Electricity, 29.63p per kWh, standing charge 32.14p per day

Gas, 7.52p per kWh, standing charge 27.22p per day

silverlining48 Wed 06-Apr-22 23:26:50

Not sure why ours is now so much more expensive at £305 pm, we don’t live in a castle..but a normal 3 bed house. Current a/c with Bulb (maybe not for long).

Spec1alk Wed 06-Apr-22 23:22:02

My £101 pcm is for gas and electricity. I forgot to say that in my first post.

Spec1alk Wed 06-Apr-22 23:17:57

I signed a 2 year fixed rate contract with OVO last September. My monthly dd is £101 and I am in credit at present. I think we were lucky but can’t imagine how much it will cost when the contract comes to an end in Sep 2023!

NanH6 Wed 06-Apr-22 23:04:42

Mine has gone up from £85 a month fuel fuel to £140! Sitting with blankets round you in 2022 is not acceptable!!!

Pammie1 Wed 06-Apr-22 22:34:27

I’m with British Gas, dual fuel. Direct debit was £90 per month until November when the fixed rate deal ended. I took out another fixed rate which increased the DD to £125 per month. It’s not due to end until October 2023, so cushioned for now, but keeping a keen eye on what happens in the meantime.

Pammie1 Wed 06-Apr-22 22:32:21

Nancat

I have a theory! Standing charges doubled overnight. Some days my energy usage cost is less than my standing charge. If energy prices fall, which some "experts" say they will, energy suppliers will have to reduce the kWh cost, but they've managed to increase the standing charge which isn't linked to the wholesale price of energy, so they have managed a backdoor increase that will be permanent. I would like to know the justification for the excessive increase in standing charges. They say it is for infrastructure costs, but how did they double overnight?

According to a news report a week or so ago, the standing charge doubled overnight in some areas, because some charges that were previously included in the price per therm, were now applied to the standing charge instead, which was then increased to cover them.

Nancat Wed 06-Apr-22 22:15:34

I have a theory! Standing charges doubled overnight. Some days my energy usage cost is less than my standing charge. If energy prices fall, which some "experts" say they will, energy suppliers will have to reduce the kWh cost, but they've managed to increase the standing charge which isn't linked to the wholesale price of energy, so they have managed a backdoor increase that will be permanent. I would like to know the justification for the excessive increase in standing charges. They say it is for infrastructure costs, but how did they double overnight?

DutchDoll Wed 06-Apr-22 19:27:52

Last summer my fixed rate finished and I went for
E.on Next 2 year fix until
5th August 2023.

Electricity
18.83p/ kWh
25.77p / day standing charge

Gas
3.44p/kWh
28.24p/ day standing charge

I feel so lucky that the timing of the change was good and also that I wasn't tempted by cheaper rates with one of the suppliers that went out of business.

silverlining48 Wed 06-Apr-22 19:24:55

I agree Bijou. Nice to hear from you, hope you are well.

Bijou Wed 06-Apr-22 16:48:21

How much easier it was many years ago when the Utilities were nationalise and we only had three bills Electricity, gas and water. No share holders!

wintersday Wed 06-Apr-22 16:23:14

I was with Ebico for a number of years - Ebico did not have standing charges but you did pay a little more for your gas and electric but as a low user, Ebico suited me. When they closed down I was transferred to British Gas. I was able to claim the Warm Home Discount with British Gas as I am on a low income so that was a huge help. Ebico did not offer the scheme, being a small company.

From British Gas I moved to Avro Energy then they closed down and I was moved to Octopus Energy.

I am very careful and my direct debit was £22 per month. I have now gone on a flexible tariff, if I had fixed, it would have cost me more! My standing charges for both gas and electric are nearly £22 per month before I start. I also have solar panels so during the day I will hoover, mow the lawn or wash or put small electric heaters on throughout the house for free so that is a great help. I also wear zillions of layers and look like a Sumo Wrestler (am under 8st and look 18st).

gas unit 7.28p
gas st charge 27.22p
elec unit 27.63
elec st charge 44.48

I have decided I am going to try and use as little gas and electric as possible (on principle). I only had my heating on an hour at night anyway with all radiators off upstairs - now I am staying under the duvet with a hot water bottle. Electric blanket a must so my bed is warm. I have tried to just have one light on at a time and if I get up to go into the kitchen, I have switched the tv off. I am on my own so all this doesn't bother anyone else. Thinking of buying a headtorch next!

DaisyAnne Wed 06-Apr-22 15:24:02

I was thinking just the same Shandy. Grandmaz please do see if you should be getting benefits. So many go unclaimed.

Shandy57 Wed 06-Apr-22 15:19:23

So very sorry to read this Grandmaz. Martin Lewis has been encouraging everyone to see if they are entitled to any help.

Here is the link.

www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/benefits-check/

grandmaz Wed 06-Apr-22 14:50:39

My fifth year with Octopus ….up till Nov 31st last year I was paying £53.68 pcm which covered my usage as long as I applied and was awarded the warm home discount. When that fixed rate ended my charges rose to £71.26 pcm for the same use and now they have risen to £108.06 pcm for the same use. I live alone in a ground floor one bedroom council flat with very poor insulation. The difference between November last year and now is 2/3 of my monthly grocery, dog food, fuel, clothes, etc etc budget. So I’m left with £39 weekly now to buy all of those things. I did switch the heating off completely the day before yesterday but was so cold last night I switched it back on for a couple of hours. Currently I’m using a hot water bottle, three tops and cosy blanket to keep warm during the day. Thank goodness summer is around the corner. I think my car will have to go, there is nothing else to get rid of as I don’t drink or smoke or go out anywhere …I do use the car to collect my Aldi shop once a month …and for health related visits but it’s 18 years old and very costly to run and tax so I guess it has to go. I don’t have any savings or means to buy something newer cheaper or more efficient. I do feel sad as it’s enabled me to visit my children and grandchildren sometimes as given their locations buses aren’t an option. The lady to whom I spoke at Octopus was very nice and apologised for the price hike. But also said that it will probably double again in October. What I shall do then I have no idea. I’m sure I’m not the only person in this situation and I feel desperately for families with children …at least it’s just me and the dog here. Sending my thoughts to anyone else on a fixed income who finds themselves similarly knocked sideways by all these price rises.

Barb22 Wed 06-Apr-22 14:25:35

We fixed with ScottishPower till dec 2023 pay 22.21 per kWh and 25.24 per day standing charge. Fixed just before it all went up thought I’d done the wrong thing because Martin Lewis kept saying don’t fix but glad I did now. It’s swings and roundabouts though because we live rural, no gas only heating oil which has gone through the roof

MarilynneT33 Wed 06-Apr-22 13:50:44

I forgot to add that we pay by direct debit and that it was £177 per month which they reduced to £133 per month a couple of months ago. I expect they will increase it again. I dread to think what it will be.

MarilynneT33 Wed 06-Apr-22 13:48:49

We're with EON now called EON Next. Daily standing charge gone from 24.478p per day to 42.331p per day. We have a smart meter and are on Economy 10 and are have no gas and have underfloor heating. Our normal rate has gone from 21.133p per KWh to 32.911p per KWh. The cheaper 10 hours have gone from 13.234p per KWh to 20.971p per KWh. We haven't had our heating on for weeks only for a couple of hours in an evening on the odd cold night.