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biglouis Fri 06-May-22 17:03:14

As Franbern has stated selling the appartment once the resident has died can be a real pain for relatives. This happened to a poster on another site for older people that I visit. His sister died and it has taken over a year (plus legal fees) to sort out the legalities. In the meantime he is stuck with hefty maintenance charges for a property which no one occupies and he is trying to sell. Some of these management companies are little short of crooks.

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 10:49:35

One my nearly mum in laws chose to go and live in a council run place like this, as she had some mobility problems.

I spoke to her last week, and she couldn't speak highly enough of the set up.
She can choose how much to be involved with the others there, but has made a couple of really good friends.

When she has been very restricted a couple of times with her bad back and knees, everyone has helped made sure she is fed and watered, and been very supportive.

One of her friends walks with her every day, so they can try and get a bit fitter, one hoovers for her once a week in return for help with her online shopping.

Hetty58 Thu 05-May-22 09:35:10

We tried (and failed) to arrange this for my mother. They all have their own entrance criteria and she wasn't quite 'independent' enough - although if you lost some mobility once there it wasn't a problem!

Of course, the resale value was much reduced, with the organisation charging a hefty 'leaving' fee if you dared to move or die!

Franbern Thu 05-May-22 09:14:03

Not in a 'sheltered' flat - but our small block of 25 flats are occupied by a lot of much older people. Oldest is going to 104 this year, several in the mid-late 90's, and a large number in their 80's. All living independently, but 'buying in' any services they require (meals on wheels, cleaning, etc.).

When I moved here I was concerned about similar things as the OP. Worried as to what happened to rubbish, etc. We are a very large 'cupboard' on the ground floor, which contains (now) two large black bins for non-recyclable rubbish, and other bins for things like glass, paper, plastic, etc. The cttee here offer a service to anyone in the flats who is unable to take their rubbish bags down there, that we will collect it from outside their front doors the day before collection day. Nobody has yet taken us up on this. Equally, we say if the lid of the black bins are too heavy, for people just to leave their rubbish bags leaning against them (against never required).

We have security main entrances, with keys that cannot be cut without express permission from our management cttee. Those doors can be opened from inside each flat. Buzzer system outside. Food deliveries are brough right up to the front doors of each flat. (pre-covid right into kitchens).

Letter boxes for each flat is external at main entrance, with each flat owner having key to open their own letter box from inside the entrance hall. Same key opens them all, and Cttee members are always happy to 'look after' people's boxes when they are away from any time. Parcels, can be brought up to flats (provided the recipient is at home to let them in). Otherwise, they are left in entrance foyer.

Best way of finding out is to visit flats, and ASK all these questions. They may well, as we do, have a printed information sheet which covers all of these points.

However, as others have said - do watch out for some of the 'hidden' costs of these retirement/sheltered properties. They usually have an extremely high maintenance charge, often have a list of tradesmen who have to be used for any work being carried out in the flat, may well have strict rules as to WHAT work/alterations can be carried out AND often have a system where when wishing to sell that property has to be sold via that management company with them taking a percentage.

A normal flat can be just as secure and with the usage of either something like Alexa (if you have family or friends locally), or the necklet/bracelet with red button which enables you to call for help. Usually, larger flat, costs less. cheaper maintenance charge, etc. etc.

Glorianny Wed 04-May-22 13:36:39

You need to check out the service charge on anywhere like this, what is included in it and if you can afford it, taking into account that it is liable to increase in the future. I know of great places where people are very happy but others where life is a continuous battle between the residents and the management company responsible for the building, services and communal areas. One place I have friends in is continually having problems about cleaning that can't seem to be resolved. My mum lived in one with a great scheme manager who really cared about the residents but some of them don't. Best to talk to someone who already lives there if you can.

biglouis Wed 04-May-22 13:28:23

One of my aunts moved into one. She was someone who spoke her mind if someone annoyed her. The warden/caretaker came knocking on the door every day to ensure that she was ok. She said it was part of her job. Auntie Evelyn told her to "bugger off" and just to ring her once a day. "If I dont answer Im dead then you can come in".

My aunt could be a pretty scary person. I take after her.

JaneJudge Fri 29-Apr-22 09:25:36

They will all have dfferent rules so visit a few and see how you feel? My friends mum moved to one and it was just like living in a flat but like you say, there was help on site if needed. The one she lived in had a pub/restaurant onsite, a hairdressers, a shop, a cafe and she was very happy there

luluaugust Fri 29-Apr-22 09:21:34

Hi Nanagem I have a friend who moved into a flat in a sheltered housing complex at a similar age to you and also my mum moved to one but later in life. My friend settled in quickly, nice small flat but she didn't join in with activities to start with only charity coffee mornings that kind of thing. Some of the older residents assumed she would do shopping for them etc but she put her foot down from the start. It has worked out well for her and she says she sleeps better knowing there is security she didn't have in her house. My mum loved it from the start but found the age groups became very diverse over the years so she was 94 when she died , her next door neighbour was in their sixties so a bit of a generational divide in the end. Yes communal bins and yes deliveries to your door.

AGAA4 Fri 29-Apr-22 09:19:31

I live in an apartment on the first floor. Tesco bring my shopping upstairs to my kitchen table.
My post is delivered to a communal area but I don't know what the situation would be in your type of apartment. Maybe you could have it delivered to your door?

Nanagem Fri 29-Apr-22 09:08:43

I’m thinking of purchasing an apartment in a residential home, I’m only 58 but have health/mobility issues and need to downsize so I’m thinking this would be a practical idea. I want to be independent and am more than able to care for myself, it’s just to know if I need help it could be there.

Has anyone experience of living in these apartments, I assume it’s just like living in an apartment but with panic buttons and community places if I want to use them. But what about practically things, does Tesco deliver to the apartment door ? Amazon/postman ? What about rubbish is there community bins or what ? I really haven’t a clue, but these sort of things will be an issue for me. I want to be independent but carrying shopping/parcels etc isn’t something I could manage.