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Finding living accommodation in London.

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shysal Sat 08-Oct-22 09:50:24

Two of my graduate grandchildren have new jobs starting very soon in London. Being on entry level salaries they are both searching for reasonable accommodation, either together or apart. This is proving to be very difficult. Any place coming up on line is either already taken or a viewing time is arranged at which 100 or more people turn up! Many hours a day are spent searching the internet or travelling to these viewings, as they currently live in Oxfordshire. Commuting will be their only option if they find nothing, but this would have to be temporary.
Has anybody any hints or leads which would help them please?
GNHQ has given me permission to post this.

silverlining48 Mon 10-Oct-22 09:40:36

Hackney and Stratford used to be poor too but not now. Clapham and even Brixton too. There is poverty of course but rents will still be higher in those areas.
Might be worth looking further out at Abbey Wood the end of the new Elizabeth line which hasn’t gentrified yet though doubtless will become more expensive in no time.
When I first moved to London in the mid 60s I lived in a GLC hostel. Then flat shares and bedsits. It was hard and I often went to bed very early because I didn’t have the 2/6 to put into the meter.

Razzamatazz Mon 10-Oct-22 09:35:53

Good luck to your GD Shysal, poor kid, I'd forgotten about the train strikes added to the mix. I hope she has a good first day.

Callistemon21 Mon 10-Oct-22 09:30:16

One of my DD had a flat share which cost a fortune even years ago and my nephew looked for a house share a few years later.

Both paid a lot for what they got but I think the house share with several others was better value.

Joseanne Mon 10-Oct-22 09:22:56

I've always felt that London has to be the weirdest of cities for accommodation and a bit baffling for those who don't live there. Take somewhere like Bethnal Green for example where you get million pound houses next to tower blocks, or Camden where one minute you have opulence, and then round the next corner poverty. It makes it very difficult for young people searching for accommodation, but my advice would be not to discount anywhere or anything, other than on grounds of travelling and costs.

silverlining48 Mon 10-Oct-22 09:10:10

It’s very expensive in the south east especially in towns which are attractive with coffee shops and quirky independent businesses but there are poorer/cheaper ie less attractive areas where properties are more reasonable. Not everyone in the south east is wealthy and if you aren’t working in finance or are something in the city it’s a struggle.
Look along the towns on the Thames estuary where in comparison there are more affordable properties.

shysal Mon 10-Oct-22 07:47:52

Thank you all for your input. They are still looking hard, including further out.

DGD has gone off on the train today for her first day at work. It is a late start for induction, but we shall see how the journey goes. The Oxford Tube bus is another alternative on rail strike days. Her mother, my DD, has had to downsize recently for financial reasons, so GD is sleeping on the sofa with all her boxed 'stuff' stacked at one end of the room, not ideal.

NotSpaghetti Sun 09-Oct-22 16:23:53

All 3 of my daughters have lived in London- though it was some years ago for the oldest.... She moved to Colchester for work which turned out to be an easy commute for her husband as he was 2 mins on foot from Liverpool Street.
Less than 1 hr 15.

The other two (recently) always found at least acceptable accommodation. One had a share of a pretty spacious mansion flat until this year.
A 12 hour day is long but how much of it is travel NotaGran?

NotAGran55 Sat 08-Oct-22 16:38:13

My son gave up trying to find accommodation in London and resigned himself to 12 hour days and £500 a month on the train.

MrsKen33 Sat 08-Oct-22 15:47:56

Hemel Hempstead offers opportunities for renting. Easy commute to London Euston. Not quite as nice as St Albans, Harpenden or Berkhamsted, but reasonable

Charleygirl5 Sat 08-Oct-22 15:27:55

I live in zone 5 in London and no longer work but when I did I was lucky if my tube broke down there were other methods of getting home without an expensive minicab.

I have free travel now, I dread to think how much it costs if I was still working.

Aveline Sat 08-Oct-22 14:10:51

Young people don't go into 'digs' any more. Whatever happened to them?

Joseanne Sat 08-Oct-22 13:51:16

Can the places they are going to work at be of assistance? Have they asked the HR departments?
I only say this because we used to let a flat, and sometimes a room in our London house, and the way we found lodgers was to send accommodation details to reputable employers (schools, hospitals, banks etc) where we knew people would have regular income and stay more than a few months. The HR departments would usually be switched on enough to then contact us if they had someone who required accommodation. Good staff are worth looking after. Tell your DGC to be proactive and ask.
I agree with others that they should either choose an area near their work or if not look outside the capital. London is huge, travelling through it, especially say East to North takes forever by tube because you have to go in to town to come out.
Good luck.

shysal Sat 08-Oct-22 13:29:38

Thank you for the suggestions. They are hoping for house/flat share rooms, that is what they did as students, the main site they are trying is the spareroom one.
I have told them that they might have to be pushy (shyness runs in the family!!) in order to be chosen. If GS tells them that he loves cleaning, which he does, it could help! grin

Elusivebutterfly Sat 08-Oct-22 13:07:31

Are your grandchildren looking for a flat on their own? It is unlikely they could afford that. Most young people live in a flat share, though I imagine these are now also difficult to get. It might be easier to find lodgings i.e. a room to rent in someone's house.
If you look for areas in outer boroughs on a train line into the right part of central London for their jobs, an ad on local Facebook groups might help. A lot of housing is posted on FB marketplace. SE London is generally the cheapest part of London, along with Croydon and some parts of East London.

Razzamatazz Sat 08-Oct-22 11:56:05

My daughter is 26 and always looks at this website. I hope they can rent within a walk to an underground station, they can work out their commute at approx 2 minutes per stop.

www.spareroom.co.uk/

Oopsadaisy1 Sat 08-Oct-22 11:55:09

Apartments in Bexley are available from £1300 for 2 bed.

Google says it’s the cheapest place to rent, journey into central London 45 minutes. Rightmove has a few.

Didcot to Paddington is the same journey time, but would cost thousands of pounds per year.

Franbern Sat 08-Oct-22 11:34:14

Working in London can prove a nightmare with regard to housing. No easy fix.

However, London is such a big place. According to where their new workplaces are they need to consider looking outside of London or at its edges for accommodation close to an easy (although probably expensive) commute.

So, (just one example), if they are working in Central London they could look for somewhere to live at the other end of the Central Line in Essex. This can be applied to all the underground system. Even outside rooms will not be cheap, but may be nicer and slightly less expensive.

NotSpaghetti Sat 08-Oct-22 11:16:30

The thing about house shares is you will get to meet the flatmates and they will "choose" who they think will fit.
It can give you a ready-made intro into the area and lead to friendships or you can live very separately under one roof.

My sons both had house/flatshares in Oxford where you have London type prices.

Aveline Sat 08-Oct-22 11:11:37

Maybe they'd be better looking for a room in a flat than one of their own. Just to begin with. DD did that and I paid for her oyster card. Transport costs have to be factored in if living out with the city.

NotSpaghetti Sat 08-Oct-22 11:11:05

My daughter let her spare room here:
m.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/london?aff=1120&KW=houseshare+londonBROAD&ag=houseshare&gclid=CjwKCAjwv4SaBhBPEiwA9YzZvNJYEk540c2Fe-fMk0v-Hxp18z4ew8AOGlWrU-KC7EK-REtDWff-FBoCjhcQAvD_BwE

Both my daughters had house-shares when they first moved to London. One with one other and one in a house of 5 people.

pascal30 Sat 08-Oct-22 11:03:19

Perhaps they could look at alternatives like Homeshare where they live in an elderly person's home in return for keeping an eye on them and providing some friendship... it costs very little and gives great benefit to all

muse Sat 08-Oct-22 10:48:58

I do wish them luck and after my DS’s recent experience, it’s very difficult. Commuting is probably the only answer.

My DS lives near St Albans and had rented a flat for 10 years there. The landlord suddenly wanted the flat so DS had two months to find another. He got one in Harpenden, close to St Albans. Even though he lives in the area, he missed out on so many. His new 2 bedroom flat is £1450 pm. That’s an average price !

He has to get into London regularly and the station at Harpenden has regular trains that get him there in about 30 mins.

shysal Sat 08-Oct-22 10:40:13

Thank you tanith. I am familiar with my local Nextdoor site, I will check with the GCs, it would be worth a try. They have been warned about scams where desperate people pay a deposit on an unseen privately advertised place, only to find it doesn't exist!

Lathyrus Sat 08-Oct-22 10:36:10

Accommodation in London is in short supply unless you can afford high prices. I’m afraid that’s just a fact. There’s no magic hints or secrets.

Anything more affordable will have hundreds of applicants and even then they will bid each other up.

I understand wanting to live in London when you’re young. I did it myself!

But honestly I think they may need to commute until their salaries match London prices. Unless you have a spare half million or so to buy them something. It would be a good investment.

Something to bear in mind is that it takes less time to get Kngs Cross on a fast train from somewhere like StNeots in Cambridgeshire than it does to get there from a London Borough like Merton or Ealing.

tanith Sat 08-Oct-22 10:21:58

Have they tried an app like 'Nextdoor' it has local groups and i do see people advertising places or asking for accommodation on there. Search specific areas or ask for accommodation there.