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De-cluttering, the never-ending process

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karmalady Tue 21-Mar-23 07:49:13

De-cluttering can be emotionally and physically draining. We, when we were two, started the process from the family home and that was in 2006. The big de-clutter

Since then we moved house twice and had two more de-clutters

Then we became just I and I moved again to a new build with much less storage but I got storage made and I developed room for stash

Now at 75, I am on another mission, to remove what I don`t need or will not need. Last remove was from my garden just two days ago, tall planters, short planters and the contents

That bit of help, advice and encouragement is all we need. We know what to do but it is, or can be, psychologically difficult. Slow and steady is key

Whiff Sun 16-Mar-25 06:20:20

MayBee do you have a free cycle group online by you . If so someone may want the boxes to move house.
Also a way to get rid of any furniture you don't want . Lot of people are into up cycling things . Woman who had my old MFI nest of 3 tables which where a dark mahogany said they where perfect for what she wanted.

Charities have got so picky over furniture and other things especially the big ones.

Funny enough I found animal charities love things like towels ,duvets ,blankets and pillows . When I moved not even homeless charities would take them . But a local animal had a lady who made the duvets and blankets smaller and made the pillows into cat caves. Don't know what they are really called but seen them for sale.

karmalady Sun 16-Mar-25 06:43:14

Maybee, old switched-off freezers make perfect garage storage for anything that could attract vermin.

I did off-load some good items to happy DDs yesterday and am hoping that DIL will be taking some sewing books back to Glasgow, train this time so they may have room. I am very pleasantly happy at the way, little by little, I am releasing spaces.

I am being ruthless with books too, if I dont like any fiction after a few pages, they are transformed into shreds for compost. Same for some of my old non-fiction, which have quietly been overtaken via modern research

I am hanging onto my sage waffle maker for now. I will find a good healthy recipe and just stick with one or two recipes, maybe keto-type

Calendargirl Sun 16-Mar-25 07:08:58

Thanks for suggestions Whiff.

Think the postage costs prohibit sending bibles etc overseas which is a shame if others could use them.

Our old upright fridge/freezer is in the garage and used as storage for preserves, sloe gin etc. Looks smarter than the old filing cabinets DH would have put them in.

Esmay Sun 16-Mar-25 10:09:45

I started a massive declutter as part of my many New Year resolutions .
It has not been enjoyable.
I hate it !
The local charity shops don't want my excess books . Lugging them down to the shops is painful .
I've kept my hardback classics and my Art and history books .
I've given away as much as I can .
Some people have had cookery books .
My high heels and excess clothes have gone to charity shops .
On a good day I do about two hours until pain sets in and reward myself with tea , a small bar of chocolate and a film !

Calendargirl Sun 16-Mar-25 14:08:21

Done a bit more today.

Stuck some photos of DH when a child in an album, that has freed up an envelope of them!

The old bibles etc, 5 of them, are now on the bookshelf, not in the loft, so easier to access and eliminate a bit later.

Some old paperwork gone in the recycling.

Some letters and cuttings in another envelope ready to be filed somewhere.

A few bits in for next car boot.

And another empty plastic storage box.

😀

MayBee70 Mon 17-Mar-25 01:09:36

I’ve just found a series of Obsessive Compulsive Cleaners on Ch 4 on catchup that I haven’t seen. It makes me feel so much better about my own clutter ( my house is cluttered but clean thankfully). I was trying to watch a Nick Knowles series on Ch 5 which is identical to Sort Your Life Out but Ch 5 catchup isn’t working. I must admit to obsessively watching these programmes…

Calendargirl Mon 17-Mar-25 16:39:31

We have a comfortable office chair up in the loft, hardly used as we stopped having a computer table years ago.

I said to DH the other day that we must take it to the next car boot we do, to see if we can get rid of it.

No need, he came back from seeing a friend today and he said he would like it for his office (he runs a mobile home site).

Fetched it down from the loft, all ready to go.

Yippee!

karmalady Tue 18-Mar-25 05:56:23

onwards and upwards, I have offloaded 8 heavy sewing books and 5 full lengths of fabric, chosen by my dil from my stash, they will be used

Paperwork has to be next, the year-old paper stack needs to be put into files and old papers removed, they were neat and tidy so not really noticed but they do need to go into my death file. I cannot be doing with leaving AC with an unholy mess to sort

madeleine45 Tue 18-Mar-25 09:02:59

Over many years I have moved 19 times in Britian and abroad. 6 times were as a child, the rest as an adult. I have always had itchy feet, wanted to see other places and live in different societies, but the attitude to stuff definitely changed over the years.

I had a friend who went to live in Bulgaria for 2 years with only what they could pack in the back of a ford cortina!! That in those days included the fondue set, if you remember those times. So early on, I was not concerned with possessions and there were few things that mattered, but I had pictures and a couple of small things of my granny. She was a very important person to me and after she died these things became even more important to me and I carried them like a talisman, so when things were difficult I would look at them and think "what would she have done"

Life moved on and I was quite good at being ruthless whilst I lived alone, and then when I married, things began to gather more. Lived in Portugal for 2 years, and we rented a flat out there so didnt collect much furniture, and had Pickfords Removal who were excellent, and when we came back they even made sort of wardrobe boxes which had rails in them, so you literally took clothes out of a cupboard and hung them on the rails and then hooked them in the packing cases.

So life and moves went on and of course many things collected over the years. I found it harder to ditch stuff , whether we were moving or just attempting to clear things out. After some hard times I became quite depressed and things got harder as I used to be able to be ruthless, but then couldnt trust my judgement, and found making decisions very hard. Yet I felt out of control and panicky if someone suggested they sort it for me .

So, my husband came up with a plan that worked for us. He was a good sorter out! So he would decide to sort a drawer or cupboard out. Then whatever he wanted to throw out , he would put on a tray or on a table. He wouldnt pressure me but just say when I was ready to have a look. So that rather took the pressure off, and there were many times that I was able to just look through and say yes it can all go. There were a few occasions when I would find the important spare bit for something and rescue it, but in general this enabled us to sort quite a lot of things out.

In the beginning I felt I was being unfair , leaving it to him, but he said he enjoyed getting something sorted, that it caused less stress etc. I was always the gardener, so would often go and do something there whilst he was sorting out, and I was always able to be quite ruthless in the kitchen and those sorts of cupboards. So it carried on until he died.

I stayed in our home for some time, but having done hospital car service, I knew that I needed to move to where I could still run my own life more easily and so the hardest move of all was from my house to a ground floor flat. Made even harder because this was during covid, so could not have any family help or anything. I did the best I could, but having to give up my piano was very difficult and endless sorting things out I did give up in the end and brought about 8 packing cases of things that I just could not cope with sorting out before I moved. It took me nearly a year to finally get through everything and I know I need to go through things again and get rid of more stuff

So looking back over the years, there have been very few times that I have regretted getting rid of things, but one or two things have travelled with me all the way. I found that wherever I went the windows were never the same size, and it was simpler and easier to leave curtains and fittings when we sold a house and got new ones wherever we moved to. I am still a book hoarder, despite giving very many away, and of course in particular my sheet music. That is very expensive to buy and sometimes it is out of print so have always been glad that I have kept it, despite my husband moaning about how much I had.

So now I feel I am in a different place. Having got rid of much of the furniture and so forth, my attitude is that I dont expect my family to want a lot of my things. Well I wont be here to worry about what they do with it, and so there are one or two pieces such as my very good special music drawers, that they know I want my musical friend to have ,etc. So I still need to clear out general clutter, but will continue to enjoy my books, paintings, music etc etc. Anything I no longer want is passed on to the charity shops, and we have quite a few nearby. So I keep a bag for books and whatever I decide I no longer want and once it is full, I take it to the next charity shop. I know of a womans refuge, where sadly sometimes women have to leave in just what they are wearing, and so once I had admitted to myself that I was unlikely to get into a smaller size again, I washed and ironed a lot of T shirts, jumpers, and trousers plus a couple of winter coats and offered them to the shelter. There were some very good quality things, and the lady in charge told me that they were all very useful and they were glad to have them.

So, I plod along now and dont have a set day or time to clear more stuff away, but accept that my place will always look untidy to some people, as I will have two or three books on the go, the cards or the chess set, and whatever else I am involved in at the moment. But who cares? I live alone now and so think at the age of 79 I am entitled to do as I please within reason. I have to say that when I go into an immaculately tidy room with not a sign of any interests, Unless they have a secret cupboard that everything disappears into, I think I would be very bored living like that , but each to their own! I have a couple of things that galvanise me into sorting out a bit more. One is when I have lost something and in the process of finding it get rid of quite a bit of rubbish. The other is occasionally decide to move things around so I learnt many yeasrs ago to MEASURE the space and double check before I actually do change stuff around. These days I will plan and check a move, and then sort as much as possible out so that the next time family or friends visit I can ask them to move things for me as I cant manage to do the moving myself.

I have always written on the back of photos, who is in the picture and the date taken. I still have a lot of very tatty looking bits of paper with writing on them,in a folder but they are all very important to me. I have very ancient love letters from my husband, a recipe written on green paper by my mother sent to me in Damascus many years ago. A long list of snowdrops I had in my collection with a drawing of all the flower beds in the garden and what was in them. They are of no interest to anyone else but I occasionally look at them and enjoy the memories they bring.So I just say , clear what you can but dont let anyone stop you enjoying something that has special meaning to you. Its your life not theirs!!

MayBee70 Tue 18-Mar-25 15:57:53

I always wanted to be someone that could put all of my possessions in a rucksack. Fifty years of living in the same house put an end to that. To add insult to injury, the ancient orange rucksack is still in the loft along with all of the other stuff I’ve accumulated over the years!It’s such a good idea to write on the back of photos ( in pencil of course). When my mum died suddenly I found a beautiful photo that I’d never seen before of my ancestors. If I hadn’t been able to show it to her one remaining relative I would never have known who they were. Are you watching that new programme on BBC about chess madeleine? It does nothing for me as I can’t play the game but I read a review that said chess players are loving it.

HeavenLeigh Tue 18-Mar-25 16:06:17

I started de cluttering a couple of days ago got two big dustbin bags full of decent clean clothes, I’m actually enjoying doing it- I think it will take a good month to clear bits and pieces, all good fun!

Calendargirl Wed 19-Mar-25 13:10:24

Up in the loft again this morning.

Tackled a suitcase with ‘stuff’ including spare, unused invitations, napkins and orders of service from our wedding in 1972.

Also two scrapbooks with our wedding and engagement cards, gift cards, and similar.

Plus a few swimming certificates, school reports, GCE results letters…..

Oh, and some boxes of pristine lace edged handkerchiefs, given to me as Christmas presents when a child. Never used.

It’s things like this I am dealing with, after years of inspecting and putting back in said case etc.

MayBee70 Wed 19-Mar-25 13:34:01

Had my new freezer delivered today so can’t wait to start moving stuff from the old one and have a clear out of ancient food that’s lurked there for years. Old freezer will then go in the garage and will be great for storage and the box the freezer came in will be filled with small cardboard boxes that I save for the day when I plan to sell things on the internet ( if I ever get round to it, that is). Either way at least it will organise the clutter better.

karmalady Sun 23-Mar-25 15:22:29

A Perfect use for the old freezer Maybee

I started to de-clutter my large upright freezer today, reality is that I will need space from june, starting with blueberries, I get more than 8kg. I threw some items out eg the green beans that I froze, unappetizing and I am never going to freeze excess again. I did make a large lamb casserole this morning, long slow cooking and prior to that I did throw my frozen charlotte potatoes out too. I have definitely decided only to freeze the foods that I most definitely love to eat. I used home frozen veg in that casserole but no spuds

The sage waffle maker did make lovely keto waffles this week, so it is staying but I cannot face another day of the same soup as yesterday and the day before etc. My big tefal soup maker is going out this week. I am happy with the one person soup maker. No more making big pots of soup, which reminds me that I have some to remove from the freezer, day after boring day of the same soup, Goodbye big soup maker

Le creuset tagine used three times in five years, it sits in plain sight but I do not want to use it. Time for it to go

Two sips of a can of white wine, it was a little present, rest down the sink as I don`t like alcohol

Calendargirl Sun 23-Mar-25 16:48:07

Fetched an old suitcase down from loft. It was filled with my late mum’s diaries. (She has been dead 20 years, but have never tackled them before).

The suitcase is now empty. The diaries have been disposed of, they were full of mundane stuff about the weather, shopping, just everyday ‘stuff’, nothing really personal.

I found the one that was the year of my birth, I kept it!

It said simply on my actual birth date, ‘baby girl arrived, 1am’

Short and sweet.

Rula Sun 23-Mar-25 17:00:09

I have a friend who lives in utter chaos. She's sent me photos. Nobody is allowed in the house. Nobody . Her boiler is broken but she won't allow antibes in to fix it because they're dirty.

This isn't hoarding particularly, it's just rubbish, you can't see the front door. Piled high with rubbish. The stairs are a death trap. Used as shelves.

It's a fire hazard. She'd never get out. She says it comforts her, living in utter chaos . She insists it's clean but it obviously isn't.

I would love to know how to tell her that things need to change but I have no idea how.

She just tells me she's happy and i should mind my own business. Which I do. But it still bothers me.

MayBee70 Sun 23-Mar-25 17:03:25

I’ve had such problems with the old freezer. For one thing, the new freezer is much smaller so I’m going to have to have a rethink about what to keep in it. I thought I could unplug the new one and give it a day to dry but so much water has been coming out of it. I think it hasn’t been working properly for a long time and there was a build up of ice in places I couldn’t see. New freezer is so flimsy compared to the old Bosch one. I think I may have to buy a small chest freezer to keep in the garage but can’t do that until the leaking garage roof is sorted. I’ve got so much old food to throw out. The pandemic was the worst possible thing to happen to a self confessed hoarder who feels terrible guilt about throwing food out.

karmalady Mon 24-Mar-25 07:01:21

Oh yes me too, it took me many years to stop buying food for a family. I also need to go through my stored food date by date, without being too precious and I agree the pandemic was also responsible

Rula, your poor friend, seems as though she will never respond as you would like her to, then again its her life

Cabbie21 Mon 24-Mar-25 08:20:42

Today I am waiting in for a carrier to collect two boxes of books, about 50 in all, for which I will receive about £38, some as little as 10p, one over £4. But it’s not about the money, it’s about clearing the room. About 200 books still to go, very specialist books. I’ve got till the end of July when someone is coming for the bookcases. Oxfam and the nearest National Trust bookshop will take some, but I need help to carry the boxes downstairs.

fancythat Mon 24-Mar-25 08:22:14

For some reason this thread has not been appearing on my radar in the last few weeks.

Well done Esmay. Not easy if you dont enjoy it.

Calendar girl - you are at same point as I am.

Will do more catch up on reading posts later.

keepingquiet Mon 24-Mar-25 08:33:29

Well this is an old thread but here's my solution for what it's worth- I de-clutter slowly, small bags taken regularly to charity shops, re-cycling or just in the bin. I am just starting to sell larger stuff too, but haven't managed this yet.

Most importantly, I have stopped buying stuff I don't need- this includes clothes, books, general knick knacks etc. If it doesn't come in your house you don't need to get rid!

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 24-Mar-25 08:59:16

I'm doing this small- style, a little at a time, like you, keepingquiet.
I have taken a few books each week to the book swap in the park, and am feeling rather proud . However, I suspect that when we gather together the coming weekend, the children will do the lemon- lips stare at the bookcases and say " Oh really, mother? " .

karmalady Mon 24-Mar-25 10:15:32

I went into the garage just now, to see if I had a specialist wholefood, yes I found a pack and then found two more packs in my freezer. Gone are the days of me ordering in excess, just in case or because it was a better price in bulk. My future buys are definitely one out and one in.

Tbf the wholedfood is cacao nibs and I was checking to see if I had enough as cacao trees are blitzed due to climate change damage

Re excess, this was the reason I did not renew costco membership, only last year though

White finger now, the garage is too cold for me

Calendargirl Wed 26-Mar-25 17:34:45

What have any of you done with your own engagement and wedding day cards?

Mine were in a scrapbook in the loft, I fetched it down today.

I realise they will hold little interest to anyone else, but, oh dear, leafing through them took me back to our wedding day 52 years ago…..

Memories, it’s so hard to dispose of stuff like that.

😥

karmalady Thu 27-Mar-25 06:32:17

I got rid of cards a very long time ago and shredded love letters from my husband to me when I was widowed. All that stuff is not necessary to me, it is in my memory

I need to go to recycling today and I feel as though I am winning the battle, as long as more goes than comes in.