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(37 Posts)
gillybean Wed 29-Aug-12 17:14:16

I do not get to see my grandchildren at all . Do i have any legal rights to see them as a grand parent. I had hoped over time i could sort things out with my son but heart breakingly this is not the case .

Ariadne Wed 26-Jun-13 18:34:04

Is there anything like that for this country? Just wondering...

Minty Wed 26-Jun-13 17:52:20

mjw,
This might be useful
canadiangrandparentsrightsassociation.com

mjw33 Wed 26-Jun-13 17:07:38

Many thanks to Faye and Maniac. And send me your petition to sign as soon as you have it!

Maniac Tue 25-Jun-13 22:49:46

mjw33 I've signed your petition .I would like to start one in UK

Faye Tue 25-Jun-13 17:00:07

www.avaaz.org/en/petition/To_give_grandparents_in_Ontario_ncreased_legal_access_to_their_grandchildren/?copy

mjw33 I have signed your petition. I have also highlighted it for you. Good luck. flowers

Maniac Tue 25-Jun-13 16:46:06

mjw33 Do you know the website WJ4SP Leading Women for Shared Parenting.Think it is based in US or Canada.Great policy statement.

mjw33 Tue 25-Jun-13 15:40:59

I'd like to offer my sympathy to these granparents who are denied access to their grandchildren. This is clearly a problem that is not restricted to the UK; it probably occurs in most countries, and the legal possibilities are no doubt very varied. We are grandparents living in Quebec, Canada, and our grandchildren are in Ontario. Like several of the cases reported in this forum, our daughter has decided for no good reason that we can see them only twice a year (and we feel if likely that even this 'privilege' will soon be removed), and they are not allowed to contact us in any way.

I have decided to take advantage of the tools offered by avaaz.org to form my own petition to try to change the law in Ontario. I will place a link to the petition below, and would be grateful to anybody who is willing to sign it. If you know of anybody who has similar petitions, I will be glad to sign them and encourage others to do so.

[http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/To_give_grandparents_in_Ontario_ncreased_legal_access_to_their_grandchildren/?copy]

jeanie99 Mon 15-Apr-13 21:29:29

I don't believe grandparents have any legal rights to see their grandchildren.

Flowerofthewest Tue 26-Mar-13 18:13:10

contd, except in a pub garden a couple of years ago when she strode past him and completely blanked him. I just hope that Karma will come round to bite their mother in the backside

Flowerofthewest Tue 26-Mar-13 18:12:12

How lovely, will light a candle on their birthdays. I love and miss the two little ones so much. The last time we saw her it was Christmas about 5 years ago, she was 7. I had made a lovely album with photos of the family she didn't see any longer Great Grandma, cousins, aunts and uncles with little messages. On Boxing Day she refused to go out with her Daddy and gave him the book back complete with pictures of us all including him. She had taken out the pictures of herself and her little brother. Very sad and so so obvious she had been instructed to do this. That was the last time my son saw his daughter.

celebgran Tue 26-Mar-13 17:39:02

Sorry forgot say flowers to you flowers and all grans in this horrid place.

celebgran Tue 26-Mar-13 17:37:48

Maniac that sounds lovely candle and loving thoughts.

Our little ones are 4 and 2 but level of hatred from my daughter towards me is very scared in that she seems determined to make us suffer why we may never know!

No one wins and 2 little girls miss out on so much love and a whole family! So sad

Maniac Tue 26-Mar-13 17:31:37

Yes I had a letter from. Hon.Michael Gove MP no less that I had the right to apply for permission to apply (keep up there!) to Family Court for contact with my GS.

But doing that in the face of the implacable hostility of ex DIl and of allegation that GS does not wish to see us feels like battering against a brick wall and possibly causing even more animosity.

So for now I'm just lighting a candle and sending loving thoughts to them - and to all you GNs who are missing your GC.

Flowerofthewest Tue 26-Mar-13 17:01:42

We were advised to submit a (I think) C100 form to apply for contact but like I said we decided against it, as much as we love and miss the children it would do them no favours at all. We would use a MacKenzie Friend tho if we did decide to try for contact.

Flowerofthewest Tue 26-Mar-13 16:52:47

Yes, did look into this celebgran but again it would have been just too traumatic for the children. My ex DiL seems to be completely losing it as far as we are all concerned and it is rubbing off on our DGD.

Minty Tue 26-Mar-13 10:41:41

There is no law that states grandchildren have a legal right to see their grandparents.
The importance of the relationship between grandparents and grandchildren will be stressed when a couple are separating and in a Parenting Agreement, but it is not bound by law.

celebgran Tue 26-Mar-13 09:19:54

Grandparents have to apply for leave to apply to court flower.

We are in turmoil as want do this but it is our daughter! Ruled by s I law but still her decision. Judges do award contact to grandparents if in best interest of child just so very sad if comes to that !

Flowerofthewest Mon 25-Mar-13 23:32:13

Look up[ Family Law

Flowerofthewest Mon 25-Mar-13 23:31:52

I think,as the law stands, you have no legal right to see the children but they have a right to see their grandparents. had to look into this as I am estranged from two of my GC and have been for 5 years. The problem is that if I get a paper to go to court for this right of theirs it will cause them so much trauma as has been proved when my son gained contact with them (going to court 4 times to fight for his right to see them) and was given contact but the mother went against the court every time. I just hope and pray that one day - when they are old enough - they will find us. They are only in the next town. The mother is vindictive and has no reason on earth to not allow them to see their father. She has told the children that he will steal them away and they will never see her again. The children are truly used a weapons and have been alienate from their paternal family.

glammanana Sat 23-Mar-13 15:29:52

celebgran have pm'd you x glamma

celebgran Sat 23-Mar-13 15:16:57

Sadly I think it does but what on earth is left? We waited 4 years seems very unlikely my daughter will soften now.

If my OH would agree I would definitely apply for contact order.

glammanana Fri 08-Mar-13 21:25:20

I feel so sorry for grandparents who don't see their grandchildren but does going down the Court route not make matters more difficult with the parent concerned ?

RecycledTeenager Fri 08-Mar-13 14:25:06

Grandparents have rights, any Grandparent can apply to the court for an access order.

SJP Sat 02-Mar-13 19:15:13

Sorry you found the Grandparents association useless. I attended a seminar recently and met other grandparents with similar stories and a very good local solicitor who gave good advice. I also get 5% reduction in solicitor's bills which is useful. However each experience is different.

Maniac Wed 13-Feb-13 10:44:41

SJP I have found Grandparents Association fairly useless on the issue of no contact.
I joined last March and received a pack containing 2010 and 2011 issues of their magazine! very little news since.
An email in Dec last inviting me to a gala dinner –tickets £50.
Their template letter to child’s mother was inappropriate.I had already written to ex DIL in similar vein... was accused of harassment and told GS was not missing anything by not seeing me.
I had already taken most of the actions they advised.
I have had much more support and help from Gransnet and my local gp.
I will not be renewing my subscription.