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Off to annoy another NHS Continuing Care Nurse today.

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Notso Mon 18-Mar-13 16:08:57

So did you explain to the step-daughter Frank that you would put the facts 'only' on Gransnet, but as it's a public forum the information could be accessed and repeated by anyone?

HUNTERF Mon 18-Mar-13 15:53:56

Hi absent

The step daughter has told me not to name her or the step mother but she said I could put the facts only on Gransnet.

Frank

HUNTERF Mon 18-Mar-13 15:51:31

Hi Enviousamerican.

The patient is in the UK.
The main reason the patient is NHS funded is because of severe behaviour problems.
She has a lot of strength, she attacked 2 nurses in the hospital and 2 visitors.
The nurses had to take time off work as a result and also 1 of the visitors.
She has also been violent in the secure nursing home and people have said if she gets out onto the streets it is possible she could kill a child.
I think the nurse is thinking that she will get weaker over the year and this problem will no longer exist.
There is no saying what will happen however as she was supposed to have passed away 6 months ago according to the medics.

Frank

absent Mon 18-Mar-13 15:46:32

HUNTERF I cannot help wondering about personal confidentiality in these situations. It's all well and good that a friend requests your presence at these meetings, but the person mainly concerned – in this instance the friend's step mother – has no say in allowing you to know confidential details about her. This seems all wrong to me.

HUNTERF Mon 18-Mar-13 15:42:33

Hi Ana

I can only agree with what you are saying.
The step daughter is not going to sell the bungalow but what I find worrying is what if she had taken the CHC nurse's advice and sold her home.
Obviously she would not have done so as she still has the proceeds of her own house and other savings.
Even if the step daughter is obliged to pay which she is not why do anything now?.
The step mother may have passed away by next year or she may still qualify for NHS funding.

Frank

Ana Mon 18-Mar-13 15:10:50

It does sound as though the CHC Nurse has got her facts wrong. A married person's estate would only automatically go to the spouse if there was no will, and obviously the step-daughter isn't obliged to sell her home to fund her stepmother's care. I'm at a loss to understand why so many of these professionals seem to be so ill-informed!

Enviousamerican Mon 18-Mar-13 15:08:46

why would she not qualify next year? Budget cuts? every time I read about this I steam! Isn't there a way to set these nurses straight? A lawyers letter? Geez maybe she gets praised when she gets some one to pay up.I know hospitals in the US end up getting people to sell their homes.

soop Mon 18-Mar-13 14:56:23

confused...totally!

HUNTERF Mon 18-Mar-13 14:53:57

Just got back from the assessment and the step daughter has said I can put this on Gransnet.
I should have said step mother when I started this post.
The step mother got her full NHS funding for another year but the Continuing Health Care Nurse told the step daughter to sell the bungalow her step mother was living in in case she does not qualify for NHS funding next year.
As it happened the daughter inherited her mother's half and then inherited the father's half but the will which was drawn up after the father's marriage to the step mother states that the daughter had to let the step mother live in the bungalow for the rest of her life or until she is placed in Care on a permanent basis.
This has now happened and the daughter has sold her house and moved in to the bungalow.
The Continuing Care Nurse insisted that the bungalow must be sold or the step daughter must provide the care fees.
The nurse said that when a person is married the estate would go to the spouse automatically.
She does not know what she is talking about as she is asking for the bungalow to fund the patient's care and it does not even belong to the patient.

Frank

glammanana Mon 18-Mar-13 11:15:46

Shysal Would like to be a fly on the wall for this one eh ? I bet this nurse thought she was just having another normal routine day at work. grin

HUNTERF Mon 18-Mar-13 09:25:30

Hi Shysal

In every case I have dealt with so far the Continuing Care Nurse has tried to put the person on to social funding or has suggested the relative sell the house.
In all cases the offspring has been living in the house and have been joint owners so they were not legally obliged to sell.
When I have said the person qualifies for NHS funding the assessor has changed their decision.

Frank

shysal Mon 18-Mar-13 09:03:16

An NHS continuing care nurse has started a thread on another forum, entitled * Off to annoy a patient, her family and their bolshi friend* It says the woman has been a nuisance by living longer than the predicted 6 months. wink

Frank, why go spoiling for a battle when there does'nt necessarily have to be one? Pleasantness can achieve better results sometimes.

HUNTERF Mon 18-Mar-13 08:30:46

One of my friends mother is due for her annual assessment today.
I am a bit surprised to be going as they said this time last year she was only likely to live less than 6 months.

Frank