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Drunks

(62 Posts)
Ana Mon 15-Jul-13 19:29:24

Now you are beginning to sound like Bentley, Frank...hmm

HUNTERF Mon 15-Jul-13 19:15:15

Another penalty could be to handcuff drunks to lamp posts for 24 hours.
Very nice on a cold winters day.

Frank

j08 Mon 15-Jul-13 18:37:34

And I'm sure no one on here is doing so!

j08 Mon 15-Jul-13 18:36:21

Yes, I know! I'm feeling cross about it.

I don't think it should be thought of lightly.

FlicketyB Mon 15-Jul-13 18:33:06

No, I do not like drunks either, but just saying 'lock the buggers up' Where? the prisons are already full, for how long? Without proper addiction treatment they will be drunk again the day they are released? How would you find the money to pay for all the new prisons and staff needed?

Much better to put up a levy on alcohol sold off license, say £1 per item whether it is a can of lager, bottle of cider or expensive wine or single malt whisky and introduce spot fines for all those idiots falling out of night clubs etc unable to walk. By the time several nights out have ended with a £100, possible increasing by £ 25 for each additional fine beyond the first, it will begin to get too expensive to get drunk.

For the drunks that ruined your DGS outing to the South Bank,j08 these are the addicted homeless drunks who will drink anything with alcohol in it. They have probably done the merry go round of court and prison several times and this is completely ineffective, they need the far more comprehensive help of social services, charities and the police to help deal with problems that have brought them where they are. Prison and fines are pointless.

j08 Mon 15-Jul-13 17:53:05

It's not a minor offence.

j08 Mon 15-Jul-13 17:52:17

My younger grandson' s outing to the south Bank was ruined yesterday by a drunk makinv nuisance of himself. I too can remember being terrified of drunk people as a child.

I agree with Frank. Lock the anti-social buggers up if they can't pay.

FlicketyB Mon 15-Jul-13 17:42:45

I doubt if the majority of drunks could afford a £1,000 fine let alone £10,000. Would you send in the bailiffs, repossess their house, leave their family, who are not responsible for the drunken member, homeless?

I always understood that a society making draconian penalties for minor offences, which it cannot enforce is a society in freefall

sunseeker Mon 15-Jul-13 17:34:44

Most of the people in that clip have probably just left a pub or club. If landlords stuck to the rule about not serving someone who was already intoxicated we would see less of this on our streets.

Street drinkers are a different matter.

Perhaps a zero tolerance policy in respect of drinking in the streets and public drunkeness is needed.

HUNTERF Mon 15-Jul-13 17:31:33

kittylester

Give them 28 days to pay or the fine goes up to £10,000.

Frank

kittylester Mon 15-Jul-13 17:22:53

Frank without wishing to be judgmental (so I am going to be!!), where I live, it is doubtful whether most people drunk on the streets would have access to £1,000. It would cost a fortune to administer such a rule.

HUNTERF Mon 15-Jul-13 17:17:43

video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/embarrassing-drunken-walks/2tbllihu

To reduce these types of situations why not introduce limits to the amount of alcohol you can have in the blood on the street and have a fixed penalty amounting to £1,000 if you exceed that limit.

Frank