No win no fee firms do not take on vexatious cases. They have to be ptretty sure that there is a case to answer before taking it on.
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(12 Posts)Greatnan I think the message from CAB is that you have to be very sure that your claim will succeed.
From what you have said, your daughter's case was clear cut and there was no chance of her incurring costs.
But not every case is like your daughter's. There are some people who make vexatious complaints, and if they incur costs and lose their case, it's only right that they should pay those costs.
The real problem lies in cases which are not clear cut and rely on the opposing expert witnesses - cases where there has been an unfavourable outcome, but negligence can't be established. In such cases, the plaintiff would incur considerable costs if they lost the case.
Clearly the adversarial system is unsatisfactory in many ways, which is why many cases are settled out of court. This may well be the best option for the OP, but she still needs good legal advice.
I am using a no win no fee agreement to make a claim and there is a guarantee that it is no cost to me. The solicitors' firm takes out an insurance (which they pay for) to cover any losses.
I have had to agree that I will take their advice - which seems fair enough to me.
I think legal aid for medical negligence has been abolished.
Having gone through a seven year fight for damages for my daughter, I find the CAB advice rather negative as it could put people off making any claim at all.
I think the advice to consult a specialist solicitor before taking further action is very sound. I am also wondering about the medical documentation you refer to. My consultant told me that my tinnitus and high frequency hearing loss conforms to a pattern often see in those who have worked in a noisy environment yet I have been a college lecturer! Of course, students can be noisy, but I have never worked in any kind of industrial environment. A good solicitor will want to assess the evidence before advising you.
This is from the CAB website www.adviceguide.org.uk
They don't seem terribly keen on no-win no-fee arrangements.
Going to the CAB might be a sensible first step.
Claiming compensation for personal injury - no win, no fee agreements
In most cases you cannot get financial help (legal aid) to claim compensation for a personal injury, and you will need to pay expensive legal fees upfront which you are unlikely to get back if you lose your case.
If you are unable to get legal aid, or do not have an insurance policy to cover your claim, one option is to enter into a 'conditional fee' or 'no win, no fee' agreement with a solicitor.
If you enter a 'no win, no fee' agreement, you won't have to pay your solicitors' fees if you lose (although you may still have to pay some expenses). If you win, you will have to pay your solicitors' fees and these will be much higher than if you lost your case.
You should think very carefully before entering a 'no win, no fee' agreement as, win or lose, you may still have something to pay, and this can often be much higher than you might expect.
Paying the other side's costs
Under a 'no win, no fee' agreement, you will have to pay the other side's costs if you lose your case. To cover these costs, which can be very high, it is advisable to take out an insurance policy. This is known as 'after-the-event' insurance. Many solicitors will ask you to take this out before they start your case.
Not everyone is able to take out after-the-event insurance. Insurance companies will be less willing to insure you if they think your chances of winning are too low. If you can't get after-the-event insurance, you should think very carefully about whether you still want to go ahead with your claim.
Taking out after-the-event insurance can be very expensive. You will not get the cost of this back if you lose.
If you can't afford to pay for the insurance upfront, you should discuss this with your solicitor. Your solicitor might offer to pay for it. However, if this isn't possible, you may be able to put off payment until your case has been decided. Alternatively, you will have to take out a loan. If you put off payment or take out a loan, you may be charged interest which you will not be able to get back, even if you win your case.
Paying your solicitor's costs
Your solicitor's costs can include:
Basic fees
You won't have to pay these if you lose your case. If you win, they should be paid by the other side. However, if the other side thinks they are too high, the court can decide that they do not have to pay the full amount. If this happens, you might have to pay the difference out of your compensation.
Sometimes, a solicitor may agree only to charge you whatever you are able to get back from the other side. If this is the case, it must be written in the conditional fee agreement.
Success fee
The success fee is an extra amount you pay your solicitor if you win your case. Success fees in 'no win, no fee' cases are often quite high, and can be as much as double the amount charged in other types of legal case.
Before you enter into a 'no win, no fee' agreement, check with your solicitor how much of your compensation you will have to pay towards the success fee. If the amount seems too high when compared with the amount of compensation you are likely to get, you might want to think carefully about whether to go ahead with your claim. Alternatively, you might want to think about choosing another solicitor who charges a lower fee.
Barristers' fees
If your case has to go to court, you might need a barrister to represent you, as well as a solicitor.
Barristers' fees are usually not included in 'no win, no fee' agreements, so if you do need a barrister, you may have to pay them regardless of whether you win or lose, and this could be very expensive. However, your solicitor may be able to persuade your barrister to charge on a 'no win, no fee' basis.
Other expenses
You may have to pay other expenses for things like experts' fees, accident report fees, official searches, court fees, and travelling expenses. These expenses may not be included in the 'no win, no fee' agreement, and they can be very high.
Hidden costs
Before you enter into a 'no win, no fee' agreement, check the terms very carefully for hidden costs. Depending on the circumstances, and the agreement you have with your solicitor, you might have costs to pay if:
your solicitor advises you to drop your case
you refuse to settle out of court when your solicitor advises you to
you agree to settle out of court against the advice of your solicitor
you refuse to co-operate with your solicitor in some other way
the other side is ordered to pay costs but can't afford to.
You might also have costs to pay if your solicitor advises you to drop your case, but you carry on with a different solicitor. If you then went on to win your case, you might still have to pay a success fee to your original solicitor. This would be on top of any costs you have to pay to the new solicitor.
Claims management companies
Claims management companies (sometimes called claims managers, claims handlers or claims assessors) can offer to take on your compensation claim on a 'no win, no fee' basis. Claims managers may handle your case themselves, or they may use a solicitor and act as a go-between.
All claims managers must be authorised by the government to carry out business. They must stick to a strict set of rules which cover how they advertise, take on business, deal with and represent clients. If you aren't happy with the service you get from a claims manager, you can make a complaint. They must have an internal complaints procedure which they must tell you about.
Before you use a claims manager, you should check that they are authorised. You can report a claims manager who isn't authorised to the Claims Management Regulation Monitoring and Compliance Unit by phone on: 0845 450 6858 or 01283 233309, or by email at: [email protected]. To check whether a claims manager is authorised, go to: www.claimsregulation.gov.uk/search.aspx.
You should be very wary about using a claim management company to handle your case. Claims managers are not legally trained. Unless they are using a solicitor to handle your claim, they will not be able to claim compensation through the courts. This may mean that they will try and persuade you to settle out of court, and could result in you getting a lower amount of compensation.
The company may charge you a lot of money for their services. This may include very high expenses which do not come under the 'no win, no fee' agreement. Claims management companies normally charge a contingency fee. This means that you will be asked to pay a percentage of your compensation to the claims management company if you win your case, and nothing if you lose. The amount you might be asked to pay the company could be extremely high. In some cases, you could be left with little or nothing of your compensation. If you are in this position, you might be able to go to court to argue that the agreement was unfair and may not have to pay the company so much. You will need to get advice to do this.
Claims management companies don't have to have professional insurance. As a result, if a claims management company does not deal with your claim properly or is negligent, you may not be able to get any compensation for any loss you have suffered.
Before you enter into an agreement with a claims management company, you should think about consulting a specialist solicitor.
Further help
Citizens Advice Bureau
Citizens Advice Bureaux give free, confidential, impartial and independent advice to help you solve problems. To find your nearest CAB, including those that give advice by e-mail, click on nearest CAB, or look under C in your phone book.
Other information on Adviceguide which might help
Personal injuries
Using a solicitor
Help with legal costs
Small claims
This fact sheet is produced by Citizens Advice, an operating name of The National Association of Citizens Advice Bureaux. It is intended to provide general information only and should not be taken as a full statement of the law. The information applies to England and Wales only.
This fact sheet was last updated on 10 April 2013 and is reviewed regularly. If it is some time since you obtained this fact sheet, please contact your local Citizens Advice Bureau to check if it is still correct. Or visit our website - www.adviceguide.org.uk - where you can download an up-to-date copy.
If I understand it right, the solicitors' fees in the No Win No Fee scenario are part of the claim. There are damages etc and expenses incurred included in the settlement and the solicitors' fees are part of the expenses element. They work at high risk and may work for ages for nothing, so claiming a fee is entirely reasonable. It does not come out of the damages awarded.
My daughter's solicitor in her medical negligence claim did not take anything out of her damages, but she received a 100% success fee which was paid by the Medical Defence Union, the surgeon's insurers. She ended up with slightly more money than my daughter, but she had to work for seven years without payment, and if the case had been lost she would have got nothing. She said that most insurers wanted a claim to be at least 70% likely to succeed.
I chose the solicitor from the list of those who were authorised to work under the legal aid provisions but they are so stringent that my daughter was not eligible. She would have had to sell her home, which had very little equity in it anyway and of course she was far too ill to deal with a house sale and moving. I believe the rules are even more draconian now.
Hmm. I think no-win no-fee solicitors take a large chunk of the damages if they do win, though.
I would make sure you get all that set out(ie what their fee would ultimately be) before committing yourself to anything.
Are you claiming against the insurance company, or the company you worked for? This might make a difference, if the company you worked for have already admitted liability.
Google "No win, No fee" and a raft of solicitors firms will come up. They will decide whether there is a reasonable chance of winning a case and advise you accordingly. It costs you nothing. They take out (and pay for) an insurance if they lose and finish up having to pay costs. This means that they only take up cases that have a more than 50% chance of success.
Hi,
I am about to launch a claim against an insurance company for damages to my brain working for a company. I have strong documentation imo, and within the legal timeframe of when claims can be made. The company and doctor both confirm I have tinnitus, however both of them hold documentation 2 years ago, which solicitor should fight for.
Anyone been down this road before? Anything I should look out for hidden charges?
Thanks.
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