pensioners have to pay to go to hospital

My father was in hospital for 6 weeks last year, his carer allowance was stopped after 28 days (but we had to inform them immediately) His state and civil service pension continued as before. (He still had household bills even though he wasn't at home)

Sorry, busy writing lines, post later!!

Sorry, rose, had an irritable moment!

Rose: write out 500 times:
Read the thread before you post.

A few of us have said that it is not now the case, rosequartz!

I see Soupy has said that it is no longer the case, which is good.

If it was the case, then I think the whole concept of paying for bed and board during stays in hospital should be looked at!

It used to be the case and is worth checking if it still is.

I remember DH's DGGM going into hospital in the 1970s and I think if she had been in for longer than six weeks they would have taken her pension off her for board and lodging, which would have made life very difficult for my MIL as they lived together and had rent and bills to pay.

But what a shame the DWP do worry people in this way when they are already vulnerable. Surely they could ensure that their guidance documents make sense? They are also wasting their own time having to explain things over the telephone to pensioners who think they need to ring them.

thank you numberplease, that makes sense.

Granny2 there was no mention of it at the time. In fact she had to cancel an appt with DWP for a 'return to work ' interview. Will speak to her about it.

Whilst my husband was in hospital, a letter came regarding his pension increase. Part of it said that they should be informed of certain circumstances, one of which was entering or leaving hospital, failure to inform could result in a £50 fine. It worried me, so my daughter rang them. She was told it was so that any benefits, not pension, one was attendance allowance, could be suspended for the duration of their hospital stay. As he isn`t in receipt of anything other than his pension, they said we had no need to worry.

Mcem- it should stop after 4 weeks. Did you tell them? If not better just forget all about it!

It would be ridiculous for them to stop people's state pensions. How would they pay ongoing bills like council tax, TV licence, insurances, water bills, etc? And some people in receipt of a state pension still have mortgages and loans to pay. I can understand why it would alarm some people, though, and perhaps it should be worded differently.

I appreciate that would be the case, FlicketyB. But my point is that the information given does not refer to any top-up benefits (Pension Credit or anything else). It simply states that if you are in receipt of a state pension you must inform the DWP of any of the many changes on their list. That is why I think it's bound to lead to confusion, as it has done with ethel's friend.

Or the suspicion that they are laying down the foundations of a future change to the rules.....

My daughter spent 7 weeks in hospital last summer and 6 weeks the year before. There was no suggestion that her DLA would be reduced or suspended. If these rules don't apply to younger people why are they applied to pensioners.

Maggiemaybe, Your husband would be affected if the two of you as a household were claiming Pension Credit. You may both have entirely independent state pensions (we do as well) but when it comes to top up benefits like Pension Credit, it is done at an aggregate household level. If the household make up changes because someone is in hospital, then top-up benefit entitlement also changes.

This Age UK Fact Sheet gives all the details you need on page 27. You do not lose your pension but after 28 days but disability benefits are suspended after 28 days.

www.ageuk.org.uk/Documents/EN-GB/Information-guides/AGEUKIG07_going_into_hospital_inf.pdf?dtrk=true

I can recall having to send my mother's pension book back when she had been in hospital for a certain length of time ...13 weeks comes to mind but that length of time may not be correct.
That was about 11 years ago.

I didn't realise the rules had changed.

X post Soupy.

When I was a student nurse in the early 60s I can remember pensioner patients, if they were in hospital for 6 weeks or longer having to give in their pension books. In those days there was, in the hospital I trained in, a person called the Lady Almoner who would turn up on the wards at visiting time and collect the pension books from patients or their relatives.The books were returned to the patient when they went home.
I don't know if any money was deducted, but I was told this was to stop relatives cashing the pensions for themselves.
The Lady Almoner I remember in my hospital was a very formidable person.She had a record of the length of stay of all pensioner patients and was very particular in collecting the books.
Nowadays people are rarely in hospital for 6 weeks. Pensioners still in need of care at this time, if not seriously ill, are usually discharged to private nursing homes.
I don't know why this 6 week rule was in force, if relatives were trying to cash the pensions for themselves they would do it before then.
I worked as a nurse till I retired about 8 years ago. I never at that time remember pensions having to be surrended, it must have been a thing of the past.

Many years ago state pension was stopped once you had been in hospital for six weeks but this is no longer the case.

I can see why people are confused. My DH has just retired, and has been sent a DWP leaflet entitled Notes about State Pension, presumably the one that ethel's friend has. It does state that when you are in receipt of a state pension (no other benefits or allowances are mentioned), there are all sorts of changes of circumstances that you must inform the DWP about. One is going into hospital.

I think that this is just a very badly written leaflet. Apparently he must inform the DWP if his spouse (me) goes into hospital, leaves the UK for more than 3 months, stops living with him, gets any benefit, pension or entitlement, is involved in a trade dispute, starts or stops work, has a change in earnings etc, etc. As his pension is his alone, containing no allowance for me at all, it surely wouldn't be affected by any of these events? I can't see why he should be contacting them every time I blow my nose!

www.nidirect.gov.uk/sm/giha5ni.pdf?rev=1

Ethel look at page 17 of this PDF. It categorically states that you will still get your state pension even if you're in hospital for a year.

No one's basic state pension is stopped or reduced if they go into hospital, however long they stay there for. Certain other benefits may be, but only because they wouldn't be needed during a hospital stay.

Which may be why the DWP need to be informed.

If it wasn't to stop the pension then they wouldn't ask. If the pensioner was going abroad on holiday for a few weeks they dwp wouldn't care.