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Can someone explain why I don't get a full State Pension please?

(172 Posts)
Visgir1 Sun 31-Dec-23 09:42:15

Agree you need to contact them they will inform you why. Or look on the Government website for assessment.

Like many Government workers I worked in the NHS I was Contracted out, I know a lot of people didn't know about this.
My pension which I received at 67, is £31.20 in total less every 4 weeks than my DH's who gets the full amount.

However I'm fortunate have a NHS pension.
When I received my SP at 67, I already had my full contributions NI in year's by the time I was in my 50's.
I recall that the contracted out NI was phased out about 10 years ago as I paid year by year more NI until I paid the full amount.

I carried on working 2 days a week my NI just went in the "pot". Still doing the 2 days and now I don't pay it, if I had to I would.

Joseann Sun 31-Dec-23 09:34:49

I think that's the full amount Katyj because it's £203.85 x 4 per month. As I haven't worked 35 years in this country to qualify, my understanding is that I will get a proportion of the new State Pension. My poor Maths assumes I divide the £203.85 by 35 and then times it by the number of years I worked in the UK, which will bring me out to around half the full amount.
I don't think you have to work until you're 66 years old to actually qualify for the full amount, do you? My DH isn't there yet but is considering stopping work early.

OldFrill Sun 31-Dec-23 09:05:56

welbeck

but it's not just for the pension, there is NHS.
doesn't every adult under SP age need to make NI contributions, or be credited them by DWP ??

Hospital treatment is free of charge for people who are ordinarily resident in the UK. This does not depend on nationality, payment of UK taxes, National Insurance contributions, being registered with a GP, having an NHS number, or owning property in the UK.
www.gov.uk

Purplepixie Sun 31-Dec-23 08:41:30

I do not understand the pension system but you are best off contacting them yourself. My biggest gripe is the fact that I get a lot less than my husband and I started work when I was 15 and worked until I was 62. My state pension back in 2014 started when I was nearly 62 but I know it has changed now.

V3ra Sun 31-Dec-23 08:28:45

If you log into your Government Gateway account you can check your pension status.
If you can improve it for any years, it will tell you.
You can back pay for up to six years so that might be an option for you (a friend did that as she'd misjudged her contributions).

Mizuna Sun 31-Dec-23 07:26:46

Yes Katyj that's the current full amount, due to rise in April.

Katyj Sun 31-Dec-23 07:12:17

Ask Alice. I’m the same age as you, I received my pension this year. I receive £815 every four week. Is this the full pension? Everyone I know receives the same amount. I’ve only ever worked part time with big gaps too.

welbeck Sun 31-Dec-23 00:52:23

thinking about it like that, it's v fortunate that lack of NI contributions only affects SP.
one is still allowed to access and receive services of NHS, notwithstanding NI gaps.

welbeck Sun 31-Dec-23 00:50:14

but it's not just for the pension, there is NHS.
doesn't every adult under SP age need to make NI contributions, or be credited them by DWP ??

OldFrill Sun 31-Dec-23 00:45:03

Fleurpepper

You have just answered your own question. You should have worked until 66.

You need 35 years to qualify for a full state pension. Many have managed that without working til 66.

NotSpaghetti Sat 30-Dec-23 19:58:15

I would still check that it's all up to date. It may be worth topping up the last few years...

karmalady Sat 30-Dec-23 19:57:07

contracting out was such bad advice in those days. I get £79 pm as my half share of my husbands contracted out pension, I was widowed 2015. That £79 is always that amount and will be for the rest of my life

It does seem as though you were contracted out OP.

AskAlice Sat 30-Dec-23 19:53:26

Casdon, ahh, yes I was employed in London strategic Government for much of my working life. That might explain it. Thank you! I'm obviously not up to scratch on the ins and outs of my pensions...confused

chelseababy Sat 30-Dec-23 19:52:30

Yes as above if you were in contracted out employment your state pension is reduced (as were your contributions)

Casdon Sat 30-Dec-23 19:38:10

Were you employed in the public sector for any of your employment years, as they operate contracted out pension schemes, so you would not get a full state pension?

NotAGran55 Sat 30-Dec-23 19:37:44

Your best bet is to check with the Pension Service.

www.gov.uk/contact-pension-service

AskAlice Sat 30-Dec-23 19:30:28

Gin, I've always paid the full rate NI for the years I was working.

AskAlice Sat 30-Dec-23 19:29:50

But on many SM threads, web sites etc. it says that the receive a full state pension you have to have X number of years NI contributions, and my 46 years always exceeds the amount stated...a bit misleading then?

Gin Sat 30-Dec-23 19:29:18

You can check on one of the on-line calculators ( just Google UK State pension calculator) or get in touch with Citizens Advice who will check it for you. It may be that you did not pay the full rate for part of the period.

Fleurpepper Sat 30-Dec-23 19:25:55

You have just answered your own question. You should have worked until 66.

AskAlice Sat 30-Dec-23 19:17:33

Just to clarify, I was born in 1957 so should have retired at 66.

AskAlice Sat 30-Dec-23 19:16:43

I stopped working in 2019 at the age of 62. At that time I had 46 years of NI contributions (I started full-time work at 16.)

However, I don't receive a full State Pension. I know I haven't paid NI contributions for the years since I retired from full-time work, but should this affect the amount of pension I receive as I have more than the required amount of contributions for a full State Pension? I am very confused...