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Lifetime Mortgage or Downsize

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Allsaints55 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:25:30

I’m 66 married & live in my large beautiful home with my husband . He’s 62 .I’ve lived in this house for 25years & it was the family home . My dilemma is this . We still have 120k mortgage & my husband has run up 30k of debts credit cards mainly . We haven’t been paying the mortgage due to his work issues so the mortgage company want their money back now . We have 2 options to sell & downsize ( there is enough equity to do this ) we’ve tryed & failed to get the house sold in 3 months even though I’ve reduced it 3 times .So we are considering a lifetime mortgage/ equity release . Seems a solution but I can’t seem to make a decision . I’m worried at my age I should be downsizing but I can’t face leaving the house . But it will be too big to heat maintain harder to sell in 10 15 years . What happens if you need to go into care & all the equity is gone or to downside later & all the equity has gone from compound interest.My husband says it will be fine as we will pay the interest so the debt doesn’t eat into equity but I’m sure as you get older you end up not paying interest . So many ifs and buts ?? But I love my home and area

Norah Wed 10-Jul-24 18:50:46

David49

M0nica

David49 Most of the young couples I know come with van loads of clothes, and high tech equipment and want houses with space for offices and gyms.

If they can afford a large place they buy it, just like everyone else, they are the lucky ones, if the can’t they leave their stuff elsewhere.

Our children all (every one of them) use all their spaces as multi purpose. The internet floats all over the house, they may be on the bed, at the kitchen table, on the sofa, wherever with a laptop wfh.

Exercise equipment folds easily, stores easily, they find a way.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 10-Jul-24 16:41:58

Or put up with less space.

David49 Wed 10-Jul-24 16:39:56

M0nica

David49 Most of the young couples I know come with van loads of clothes, and high tech equipment and want houses with space for offices and gyms.

If they can afford a large place they buy it, just like everyone else, they are the lucky ones, if the can’t they leave their stuff elsewhere.

M0nica Wed 10-Jul-24 14:02:10

David49 Most of the young couples I know come with van loads of clothes, and high tech equipment and want houses with space for offices and gyms.

David49 Wed 10-Jul-24 10:28:35

Germanshepherdsmum

I wish people wouldn’t recommend equity release. Do they have any idea how much ends up being owed due to compound interest?

Equity Release is only justifiable if you have no one to leave money to and intend to spend it all yourself, a park home or a retirement complex is similar, service costs and depreciation use up a lot of capital.

Downsizing will always be a better choice if you want family to inherit.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 10-Jul-24 08:58:59

I wish people wouldn’t recommend equity release. Do they have any idea how much ends up being owed due to compound interest?

David49 Wed 10-Jul-24 08:48:38

“David49 Have you been round any of these 'marvellous' new houses? “

Actually my wife’s youngest son has just moved into a brand new estate semi, we have spent a few nights dog sitting, it’s compact but they have everything they need. Finish is good, very well insulated, there is a small garden, parking for 2 cars and the whole estate is smart and well laid out.

It’s all very well moaning that they are smaller than in the past but young couples are both working these days and don’t want extra space, that costs a lot more to build. A council house of years gone by would cost double todays social housing

We have a 3 bed 1970s bungalow, compact with a large garden, we both like gardening so that’s OK, it needs updating - dry lining so that’s the next project, no intention of moving.

Lydie45 Tue 09-Jul-24 22:06:03

Look at reputable companies offering equity release, my friend and her husband did this it paid off their mortgage, paid for new double glazing and a new driveway. Some savings were left and with their pensions are quite comfortable. Someone else I know took as much equity as possible and gave it to her children she said she would rather they had the money now than wait until she was dead. It is worth looking at properly with experts

mabon1 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:11:47

downsize.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 04-Jul-24 14:38:08

I agree MOnica. I like spacious rooms and modern developments just don’t provide them. Developers seem intent on cramming in more rooms rather than fewer, more spacious rooms. The developments of which I am aware certainly aren’t selling off plan - that includes new builds and clusters of barn conversions.

M0nica Thu 04-Jul-24 14:22:28

Up until now we have always sold our houses within a week, usuaslly within days. This one as been on the market for 6 months despite a big price cut.

David49 Have you been round any of these 'marvellous' new houses? DH, DD and I went to a very big new developmentb (meany thousands of houses, multiple builders) and went round a lot of new houses, looking a them as a potential new home.

However big they described the houseses, how many rooms etc, the rooms were tiny, master suites in the roof had nowhere for wardrobes, fitting a stairlift would be impossible because at ground level the chair would block the hall as every house had very narrow enclosed stairs and a narrow hall. The gardens were almost too small to be described even as a back yard, more just extended patios.

The houses being sold on this huge development near Cambridge were certainly not selling off plan and developers have been cutting prices as well as offering incentives, sometimes adding up to £50k as well.

Having recently visited a relative who lives in a house on one of these developments, wild horses couldn't get me into one of those houses. I would rather pay the higher heating bills and be able to breathe or even swing the proverbial cat, which is, of course, not a cat but the cat-o-nine tails. a whip used as punishment in the navy in previous centuries - you needed space to swing one.

Allsaints55 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:01:47

Bonny banko. It was good to hear a positive response about equity release . As most have been very negative. But for some it’s a solution if you want to stay in your home & don’t worry about the inheritance left & understand about compound interest . I know there is a lot of threads on here about lifetime mortgage. My dilemma was to sell or stay in the house I love . I’ve took all your comments on board . I’m not terrified as I have a good financial head on my shoulders & I know a decision has to be made quickly as well as dealing with a husband who has not been good with forward planning for us in our 60’s !!!!! 🤗 x

JaneJudge Thu 04-Jul-24 10:31:51

you must feel terrified. I think I'd divorce him

David49 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:26:39

There is a lot of new building here, they sell off plans, the only reason existing houses don’t sell is because they are overpriced compared to new build. The market did slow during Covid, now the only obstacle is painfully slow planning.

Older properties may have “character” or a nice view but are also expensive to maintain and heat. My daughter just sold her family village house for more than the asking price, then had a great deal of difficulty finding a place to downsize, even with cash in hand.
Eventually they had to settle for a run down place that needed a lot of work, they had the money but didn’t want the work.

Callistemon213 Thu 04-Jul-24 08:41:23

Germanshepherdsmum

The housing market is far from active here unless you have something really special to sell. As the OP is finding out.

I know someone who is looking for a property in your area, relocating.
Little interest in their lovely house and nothing much of interest in the area where they are relocating.

Places here are stuck on the market for months and new- build houses are not going very fast either.

Bonnybanko Thu 04-Jul-24 08:39:00

And I still get to stay in my home

Bonnybanko Thu 04-Jul-24 08:36:23

I went for a lifetime mortgage years ago and I paid off my remaining mortgage, I got a chunk of money to pay for my walk in bath and a few large renovations to my home my family will still get a small inheritance but hey ho it’s my money and I’ve worked hard all my life. my family are delighted for me, agreeing it’s the best thing, they’re just happy I made this decision and I’ve never looked back.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 04-Jul-24 08:28:43

The housing market is far from active here unless you have something really special to sell. As the OP is finding out.

Callistemon213 Thu 04-Jul-24 08:22:24

David49

With a large mortgage and other debts I dont think equity release is a viable option, you need to downsize. You are asking too much for your house in your area, the house market is quite active even now, you need to bite the bullet and downsize.

The housing market is sluggish as far as I am aware.

Has Allsaints said which area or anything about the size of the property?
I may have missed it.

David49 Thu 04-Jul-24 08:19:43

If the house has been your family home for 25 yrs I assume you remarried and you have been indulging your husband since then.
You need to take action now before it gets out of control, if you dont the mortgage company will force a sale and take whatever they can get, auction if needed!.

blue14 Thu 04-Jul-24 08:18:54

Thank you Allsaints55 for coming back to us.

It is a difficult predicament you find yourself in.
I sympathise with you and I hope you can come to some decisions soon that will give you peace of mind.

Allsaints55 Thu 04-Jul-24 07:52:54

Thankyou . I’ve been reading all the advice . And know it’s my husbands reckless spending that caused this . This has weighed heavy and I considered leaving . We have been together 15 years .Good & bad as most marriages are .i have a state pension but don’t work . A small private pension . My husband spent all his private pension so now doesn’t have one ! I’m sure you are all not surprised 😦. So there is equity enough to buy a house if only we could sell that’s why the equity release seemed an option. I hope I’ve answered everyone d questions x

keepcalmandcavachon Thu 04-Jul-24 07:52:02

I'd sell up ,enjoy the peace of mind. Many estate agents price up to get the contract so bear that in mind as regards to dropping the price. The chronic stress of your situation can be turned around but you have to be positive in outlook, hope you are both ok ,sometimes we just have to roll with the punches, good luck flowers

David49 Thu 04-Jul-24 07:45:27

With a large mortgage and other debts I dont think equity release is a viable option, you need to downsize. You are asking too much for your house in your area, the house market is quite active even now, you need to bite the bullet and downsize.

Callistemon213 Thu 04-Jul-24 07:35:51

Thank you for coming back to let us know Allsaints

I hope you can work with your mortgage company (perhaps pay interest only?) rather than go for equity release and that you manage to seel fairly soon and find somewhere else you like.