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Tenant in common

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Lilypops Sat 17-Aug-24 23:14:21

Does anyone know about ,or has put in place Tenant in Common, I believe it’s to protect the other share of the house if one of the couple hast to go in to care, the other can stay without the house being sold for care home fees, something like that anyway ,

Cabbie21 Sun 18-Aug-24 10:48:06

Just to return to the topic of the OP, if I may, it is possible for one party to instigate a severing of a joint tenancy in order to become tenants-in-common, without the consent of the other party. I don’t know why. There are pros and cons to that.

Rest assured that a spouse over pension age or indeed a younger carer will never be forced to move out if one goes into care.
If you are t-i-c, you need to make a will and leave your share of the house. Always best to discuss the wording with a solicitor, to leave no loopholes.
It is very useful for couples with children from previous marriages, as they can each leave their share to their own children whilst the spouse does not lose their home, nor their right to downsize.

Georgesgran Sun 18-Aug-24 10:46:02

I’m feeling sorry for the OP now., as this thread has been completely derailed.

There already is/was a long thread recently about recently banned posters.

blue14 Sun 18-Aug-24 10:44:07

Oh Marydoll - I'm so sorry!
I read your post BEFORE it was deleted and there was certainly nothing untoward said.
Things seem to be changing on this website.
Don't be sad.
Hopefully the sun is shining where you are!

pascal30 Sun 18-Aug-24 10:40:06

Very reasoned post Doodledog.. I'm not sure i wish to continue on a site which makes such permanent bans, especially to people whose views might be different to mine, but who make them in a respectful and considered manner.. I never saw a post by either GSM or Callistemon that was vindictive or insulting.. they just spoke their own truth..

Marydoll Sun 18-Aug-24 10:37:14

I could count on one hand the number of times in fourteen years in ten years, I have been deleted! 😪
That's my Sunday ruined.

Doodledog Sun 18-Aug-24 10:34:01

I'm not sure that anyone has been 'hounded' off the site, but I am also sad to see long-standing members banned. There seems to be an all or nothing approach to moderation, unless there are behind the scenes warnings that we don't know about. What on earth did Callistemon do to deserve a ban?

As others have said, people have different views, and that's absolutely fine. There would be far less to talk about if not. Yes, there are those who can't resist unpleasant digs at the expense of a reasoned argument, but they are usually dealt with on the thread, or ignored. There is no real need for intervention unless they are being racist or otherwise offensive, or if they are knowingly distressing others.

Disagreement is not hounding, bullying or anything other than disagreement.

Georgesgran Sun 18-Aug-24 10:33:58

Back to the OP - this thread has been derailed.

I think there’s a lot of information to be had here and online, but probably still worth seeing a solicitor to put your mind at rest.

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Siope Sun 18-Aug-24 09:06:31

You can look on the Land Refistry to see if you are joint tenants or tenants in common, and you can change it if necessary for a small fee.

However, you should then still have a Will which sets out what you want to happen to the share of the house you each own, and to set up a Deed of Trust if necessary, and you should get a solicitor to do this. S/he would also check the Land Registry and can make the change for you, so I’d do that.

My Will, for example, leaves my share of our house to my sons, but with a life interest to my husband (so he can live there until he dies, or sell it, or rent it out) and names two Trustees (who are different to my executors). It explains what happens if he wants to sell, because legally he can only sell half, how the Deed of Trust applies if he buys another property etc. It also sets out what happens to the rest of my estate. His leaves his share split between family, with a life interest to me, etc.

So only our own shares count when assessing any care costs, as you say.

However, nobody is forced to sell or leave their home, whether they own their home jointly or as tenants in common, to pay their partner’s care costs. That only happens when the partner that hasn’t needed care dies, or if you are both in residential care and agree neither of you will never return home.

So a tenants in common arrangement is about protecting other people’s inheritance, not one person’s living arrangements if the other needs care. In some ways, it can be a bit more limiting, as you only have full control over your own share of the property. Plus, there is nothing to stop one of you selling or disposing of their share of the home regardless of whether the other one wants that, so you need to be sure that wouldn’t happen.

You should speak to a solicitor about whether it’s the best option for you both and about changing your home ownership model and Wills if it is.

Marydoll Sun 18-Aug-24 09:01:40

I'm really annoyed about the fact that some long standing posters can no longer post.

I do know that some are still reading.

Sorry, back to the topic in hand.

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Lilypops Sun 18-Aug-24 08:55:28

Thankyou Monica I looked that up and it was very helpful , we own our house and we are both named on the deeds ,
Thankyou Aldom. Will read up on that to,
Very useful advice. A group of us were talking of this recently and it got me thinking and worrying about what would happen. My husband is a lot older than I am , and I worried about what would happen ,

Marydoll Sun 18-Aug-24 08:54:18

Some more information.

www.revolutionbrokers.co.uk/blog/disadvantages-of-being-tenants-common

Aldom Sun 18-Aug-24 08:48:23

Drrr. Advice.