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Humphreys 3 - Cameron 0.

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Greatnan Mon 23-Apr-12 08:33:02

John Humphreys has just demolished Cameron, forcing him to give straight answers. He came across as shifty, incompetent and hypocritical.
If you voted Conservative, do you regret it?

vampirequeen Mon 23-Apr-12 11:22:08

Oooh good question.

Jacey Mon 23-Apr-12 15:30:06

Yes , he was a bit like a rottweiler (Sp?) this morning grin

Greatnan Mon 23-Apr-12 16:20:19

A lot of politicians won't face Humphreys because he won't let them waffle in 'Newspeak'. I hope he doesn't retire.

Seventimesfive Mon 23-Apr-12 16:38:26

Great interview! Made me wake up fully and cheer! I used to work with John many years ago when we were both teenage reporters on a local paper. I knew then that he would go far as he had the same self confidence and energy that he still has and a wish to get to the truth of a story.

artygran Mon 23-Apr-12 19:49:03

Will he have to be compulsorily microchipped with all the other dangerous dogs? (no, not the prime minister!)

jeni Mon 23-Apr-12 19:57:20

grin wishful thinking!

jeni Mon 23-Apr-12 19:57:57

Oh and dragon

Jacey Mon 23-Apr-12 20:04:48

artygran dragon ...think he's too old!!grin

baNANA Mon 23-Apr-12 20:46:43

Cameron shifty? do you mean shifty like Tony Blair?, Incompetent, like Gordon Brown? or plain hypocritical like Harriet Harmen?, she of the "all women shortlists",suspended when Mr Harmen (Jack Dromey) was parachuted into a safe labour seat. Or how about Dianne Abbott who wanted to ban private schools until she sent her own son to one on the spurious grounds of race. What I regret Greatnan is most of the career politicians we have on offer of all political persuasions, including Cameron, are out of touch, unrepresentative of their electorate and seemingly lack any sort of integrity whatsoever.

POGS Mon 23-Apr-12 21:54:40

I like your style baNANA. I could'nt agree more!

You could also add, shifty like Campbell. Incompetent like Burns( good luck there's no money left). Hypocritical like Prescott, on just about everything but " I wouldn't go into the Lords if you paid me" was the best.

Only mentioned Labour as the opening gambit was about a Tory. Probably like you just balancing the question, there are good and bad on both sides really. I like Frank Field and Kate Hoey for example and they are Labour.

baNANA Mon 23-Apr-12 22:00:55

Yes I agree with you about Frank Field and Kate Hoey both come across as good eggs and I dare say there are other mavericks out there with their integrity, but sadly they always seem to be marginalised.

Greatnan Mon 23-Apr-12 22:03:27

baNana and POGS - you have both made the mistake of thinking I have any respect for any of the politicians you have mentioned, but they are not in control at the moment. I no longer have any allegiance to any political party in the UK (I can't vote anyway) - I became disenfranchised in 1997.

Anagram Mon 23-Apr-12 22:05:42

I notice no one's answered your question directly yet, Greatnan! grin

baNANA Mon 23-Apr-12 22:11:09

Greatnan, I did digress from your original post, apologies You aren't the only one feeling disenfranchised. I've seen from previous forums you are now in France, not much better there, what a motley crew!

Greatnan Mon 23-Apr-12 22:12:15

Tribal voting? Didn't the people of Hartlepool elect a monkey as the mayor?
Mind you, I think that was more to do with total disgust at all the other candidates..............hm..............

Greatnan Tue 24-Apr-12 08:25:29

I am looking forward to hearing the Murdochs sticking the knife into politicians and the police which they will soon be doing at the Leveson Enquiry. They will do it because they no longer have anything to gain in Britain, out of spite and to try to save their own miserable skins.
I see many of Cameron's own MPs are now trying to distance themselves from Cabinet decisions.
I don't see how the fact that Blair was equally venal and duplicitous makes the present shower smell any sweeter. There is always a knee-jerk reaction to any criticism of any government - 'Well, the other lot are just as bad'.

baNANA Tue 24-Apr-12 09:00:38

I agree with Nadine Dorries statement of "two posh boys" Cameron and Osbourne out of touch with their voters except I think it should be "three posh boys" because Nick Clegg, when asked a couple of years ago, what the week pension was, he replied "about 30 quid a week". That's the political class for you, God help us!

baNANA Tue 24-Apr-12 09:04:33

I should have typed weekly pension and not week pension, although £30 quid a week would certainly be a weak pension.

Greatnan Tue 24-Apr-12 09:11:47

I agree - there are so many MPs now who went straight from university to become Political Researchers and then were given a safe seat.
I have been re-reading Trollope's Palliser novels - not much has changed!

Ariadne Tue 24-Apr-12 11:05:33

An exerpt from "The secret People" by G.K. Chesterton. Apt, I feel.

They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords,
Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords.
They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.
And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.

We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.
It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
Our wrath come after Russia's wrath and our wrath be the worst.
It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
God's scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.
But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.
That we are the people of England, who have not spoken yet.

grannyactivist Tue 24-Apr-12 11:10:41

Brilliantly apt Ariadne. smile

Ariadne Tue 24-Apr-12 11:12:08

That's the end, but the rest of it is good too. Worth looking up!

susiecb Tue 24-Apr-12 14:01:35

Kevin Maguire on Twitter says he wished Cameron had been asked how much a pint of milk is - a good test for all politicians to see how in touch they are with the electorate.

Jacey Tue 24-Apr-12 14:45:52

Did anyone watch 'The 70s' last night?

They were looking at 1973-74 in particular ...inflation(due to oil prices ...70% increase) unable to buy houses due to cost; cost of food rising; miners strikes; power black outs ...talk about things going in cycles!! Apart from now ...it's the bankers etc not the miners.

It trully bought back memories of hard times.