Genetically Modified Crops

Your point is, Elegran?
Supermarkets, which is where most people get their food, have decided not to source their feed from non-GM, apart from Waitrose.
That's because it is difficult to find out, because much of the feed comes from the US, which does not label GM feed.

It used to be that supermarkets could trace GM, but now they cannot.

When I had my guest house, I used to state that none of the food contained GM as far as I was aware. Then the law changed so that anybody who used food which did contain GM had to state so. I never saw a restaurant change its menus to say so, but lots of them used oils that could have been.
I used to source my food through companies that I knew did the research, like Suma wholefoods. But I wasn't allowed to say so on my menu.

My point is that in Europe GM food for humans must be labelled. When you spoke of not finding any GM food I naturally assumed that you were concerned about your own intake.

If an animal eats GM feed it digests it into its componets, and any GM genes are converted into the animal who ate the feed.

www.gmcontaminationregister.org/index.php?content=default

That is people breaking the rules. It does not mean there are no rules, and they should be prosecuted for their transgressions. People also break the rules about producing organic food and should be punished. Choice needs good labelling regulation, adhered to by all

I have seen food saying it contains GM. Cant say I have looked relatively recently though.

I have seen food which says contains no GM ingredients. That's what I try to buy.
What foods have you seen which say they contain GM?

I cant remember specifically. I will have a look at some I have now.

I used to have to read a lot of food labels [oh what fun] as one of my sons is severely nut allergic.

I have had a look at some. Cant find any.

As you say, it may not been done now.

Until this year only one GM crop could be grown in EU countries (bt-maize in Spain) so it's not surprising if we are not yet seeing foods labelled as containing new fangled genetic modifications. Plenty already contain old fangled genetic modifications that we have been developing since the dawn of agriculture.

I find it interesting that the OP has not come back on this. I hope he/she found it useful.

The OP, nanaej, is no longer nanaej, so if she did come back, she would not be recognised. It was three years ago, after all. I don't suppose she has been in an agony of suspense all this time.

Ahh, thanks for the explanation.

Thatbags, spot on! we have been using genetic modification for a long, long time, have people forgotten that?

When did you last see a fish mate with a tomato?
Thought not.

Don't be silly, dj. It has nothing to do with mating. Genes often work as switches; the switch tells a cell what to do about something or other, e.g. stop that particular pest from doing something that inhibits the plant's growth.

If you really think GM has anything to do with sexual reproduction it is perhaps no wonder you are against them because talking about mating in that way shows complete ignorance of what GM is and what it does. What it does is extremely limited. It does not break the normal species barriers that prevent species interbreeding.

Alarmism out of ignorance. Only to be expected, I suppose, but still sad.

All forms of life on the planet share some genetic code. Does that mean animals are plants or that plants are animals? No. It means we share some of the code that makes us living things. That's all. So using a gene or two from one life form to another for a particular purpose does not change the kind of life form the other was in the first place.

Wait a minute! I am developing scales and fins! Aaaaaaaaaargh!

Are you rurning into a mermaid, rosesarered ?

You're not developing a big, shiny red nose as well are you, roses?

How many genes do fish and tomatoes already have in common?

"Every species on Earth carries a genetic code that is, for all intents and purposes, identical and universal. "
"A Human and a grain of rice may not, at first glance, look like cousins. And yet we share a quarter of our genes with that fine plant. "
National Geographic Magazine

Play a genetic code game - ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/125-explore/shared-genes

ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/125-explore/shared-genes

Not sure it worked first time.