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Yvette Cooper, live webchat, Tuesday 10 July, 1-2pm

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GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 28-Jun-12 20:31:27

Yvette Cooper is the Shadow Home Secretary, Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities and one of the most important figures in the current Labour Party, often tipped as a future leader. She has a particular interest in what she calls the stretched generation - looking after elderly parents, helping out with grandchildren, worrying about pensions. She's a mother of three and, with her husband Ed Balls, she's half of the first married couple to serve in the British cabinet.

We're delighted that she's coming in for a webchat. Please ask your questions here.

Anagram Tue 10-Jul-12 15:51:00

I agree, her answers were very predictable and full of politician-speak.

POGS Tue 10-Jul-12 15:32:06

I'm sorry but I for one have found this to be very poor in the reply stakes.
It has confirmed my point on politicians, all spin and hypocrisy.

At least Ann Widdicombe (sorry don't know how to spell her name).answered all the questions and didn't cherry pick them either.

A bit of a waste of time asking her thoughts for most of us. I feel a bit cheated.

I apologise if I got the wrong end of the stick for the value of this type of interview, perhaps I expected too much.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:18:06

Thank you to everyone, sorry I didn't get through all the questions.

I hope lots of people will respond to the Gransnet survey. Many Labour MPs are also doing surveys of the views and concerns of women in their fifties and sixties over the summer because we want this to be an important theme at Labour Party Conference in the autumn when we hope to set out more details about the Older Women's Commission too.

(And thank you to Gransnet for the tea and sandwich too)

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 10-Jul-12 14:16:04

Sadly, Yvette's got to go now. Thanks so much to her for coming in. Gransnet is going to be launching a survey later today on issues faced by middle aged women - we'll be starting a thread.

In the mean time, thanks to Yvette for coming in and telling us where her lovely dress came from smile and for her many thought-provoking answers to our questions.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:13:19

frantick

I believe the editor of Vogue has said you are the woman she would most like to see in her magazine. Are you interested in clothes? Is it something you would ever do?

I'm wearing a stripey Marks & Spencers dress today -- which I really like. Though with Kate Bostock's departure today, I hope I'm not in a minority.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:08:26

Iwasframed

Hi Yvette,

Isn't the flipped side of the stretched generation that men still aren't doing enough? How do we do something to change that?

There is a big gap still for men and women in their fifties and sixties -- with full time women earning on average £4,500 a year less than full time men. Interestingly women are also more likely to work beyond the state retirement age than men, and they are much less likely to be in well paid jobs if they do so. Two thirds of men who work beyond the retirement age are in high skilled jobs. Two thirds of women who work beyond the retirement age are in low skilled jobs.

My sense is that men of all generations are doing more in the family than they were twenty years ago. When I do school gate surgeries in my constituency more and more grandfathers are picking up the children after school as well as fathers and grandmothers. But we know there is still a big difference. I think we should be making it easier and much more common for men to do more in the family throughout their lives - including encouraging paternity leave and flexible parental leave.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 14:00:51

goodenoughgran

It looks as though the government isn't going to do anything about funding social care. Do you agree that this is one of the most urgent social problems we face - and what would Labour do?

Does the 'death tax' now look like a dreadful lost opportunity?

I do think this is one of the most urgent social problems we face - in fact I think it is a growing crisis.

We wanted cross party talks on this, because we know there aren't easy answers, reforms need to be substantial and long term. I think the Dilnot Commission was a very good starting point for those cross party discussions and we should be trying to build a consensus. It is disappointing that Andrew Lansley has pulled out of those discussions and we expect the government to announce tomorrow that major changes will now not take place at all in this Parliament. The trouble is that the pressures are growing all the time. Councils have cut social care heavily and more and more people need support. So we'll see what the government puts forward tomorrow, but I think we are going to need more rapid action -- including legislation in this Parliament not the next one.

upwardsandonwards Tue 10-Jul-12 13:55:24

Is it difficult for you and your husband, both having such big and demanding jobs, especially when so much of politics is about who's up and who's down? How do you avoid being competitive with each other?

jessieg Tue 10-Jul-12 13:53:36

Do you really think Ed M is the best person to be leading the Labour Party right now?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:53:31

Barrow

I have always voted, always for the person not the party, but now for the first time I am so disillusioned with the current crop of politicians. I grew up in a home where my Father was a union activist and campaigned for the Labour candidates in elections. He felt that voting was really important but I now feel that no matter who I vote for nothing will change, no-one will listen to what the public actually wants and politicians of every party and merely looking out for themselves. What do you think politicians can do to recitify this feeling not just in me but in many of my friends.

Politics does make a difference but you are right we have to work to make it more relevant. Voting Labour in 1997 meant we were able to bring in the National Minimum Wage and Sure Start -- very different to the Conservatives plans at the time. And right now I strongly disagree with the Conservatives over their costly reorganisation of the NHS which is putting more emphasis on income from the private sector; Labour has said we would repeal the NHS Reform Bill. So I hope we can persuade you that there is more to politics and that it is worth voting because I think there's a lot at stake for the country.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:47:54

JessM

The problem is Yvette that now this hare has been set running - baby boomers are ripping off younger generations - that people are starting to believe it. This lunchtime on You and Yours there was a programme about employment for older people and they read out a letter from a resentful 28 year old which was almost vitriolic. It seems that the Tories are trying to soften up the population to believe this myth. There are millions of middle aged and older people who have not had great careers and have not cashed in on the property boom.
The You and Yours busted a lot of myths. Worth a listen.
Any ideas how Labour can combat this big divisive myth that we are all in clover to the detriment of 28 year olds?

No one doubts there is clearly a serious problem for young people at the moment. Youth unemployment is through the roof, EMAs have been cut and tuition fees are rocketing. And we remember the problems of the 1980s when a "lost generation" then found it even harder to get work later on.

But blaming baby boomers or stoking up intergenerational strife as Mamie mentioned earlier is complete rubbish.

Look at the facts. Women in their fifties and sixties have seen a 39% increase in unemployment in the last two years compared to an increase for the population as a whole of 5%. Changes to the state retirement age mean women in their mid fifties are hardest hit losing around £8,000 with little time to change their retirement or pension plans to compensate. And most people in the baby boomer generation are working extremely hard to support other generations of their own families -- they are the first generation to have had to cope with caring for elderly parents on such a massive scale.

troubadour Tue 10-Jul-12 13:45:53

I have been concerned about the Labour Party's move towards saying that immigration is A Bad Thing. I know this is a populist line in some areas but surely the argument needs to be made that immigrants bring things to the country - always have done - and often do difficult jobs. Many care homes would simply stop functioning without immigrant, and often very caring, workers.

As shadow home secretary, are you going to go along with the immigrant-bashing or are you prepared to make the difficult arguments?

pammygran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:42:28

When are you & your husband along with the rest of the Labour party, especially the ghastly Gordon Brown ,going to admit & apolgise for the appalling mess you left the country in regarding the economy?...even worse the number of immigrants you let in, changing this country forever..

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 13:42:22

I have always voted, always for the person not the party, but now for the first time I am so disillusioned with the current crop of politicians. I grew up in a home where my Father was a union activist and campaigned for the Labour candidates in elections. He felt that voting was really important but I now feel that no matter who I vote for nothing will change, no-one will listen to what the public actually wants and politicians of every party and merely looking out for themselves. What do you think politicians can do to recitify this feeling not just in me but in many of my friends.

quizzical Tue 10-Jul-12 13:39:46

It's often said that women start to feel invisible in middle age because there is still so much emphasis in the media etc on attractiveness. Television executives don't want presenters who have lines and unruly hair. How do we counter this and become more visible - especially if we have spent our lives caring for other people rather than becoming chief executives or politicians? That doesn't mean we don't have political views!

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:39:40

DavidH22

There is much cynicism surrounding politicians of all parties after the expenses scandal, links with big business, a feeling that policies favour a chosen few and that politicians have generally lost touch with, for want of a better phrase, the common man. How do you think Labour should try to get back to being a party of and for the people and clean up the image of politicians?
Second question if allowed: Are you and Ed able to leave politics outside once you shut your front door?

Second question first, David: we certainly talk about lots other than politics, we'd go mad if we didn't. And anyway three growing children make sure of it. Ed has just taken up piano lessons! Meanwhile I am trying and failing to grow vegetables. Even worse than last year, mice and pigeons are getting at the peas and lack of sun means I think the tomatoes will stay green for ever.

First question: Labour lost the election heavily - so we all know we have a lot of work to do, listening to people and making sure we are championing the things people really care about. There are still big differences in politics - I really don't think all politicians and all political parties are the same. For example I think the Coalition government is deeply wrong to give £40,000 as a tax cut for the richest people in the country, at the same time as taking away £3,000 from a working family on the minimum wage. We've been campaigning on this in the Labour party, but we know we still have a lot more to do.

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 13:36:24

Any ideas why I should join the Labour party having voted Labour all my life?

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 13:34:02

The problem is Yvette that now this hare has been set running - baby boomers are ripping off younger generations - that people are starting to believe it. This lunchtime on You and Yours there was a programme about employment for older people and they read out a letter from a resentful 28 year old which was almost vitriolic. It seems that the Tories are trying to soften up the population to believe this myth. There are millions of middle aged and older people who have not had great careers and have not cashed in on the property boom.
The You and Yours busted a lot of myths. Worth a listen.
Any ideas how Labour can combat this big divisive myth that we are all in clover to the detriment of 28 year olds?

pudding Tue 10-Jul-12 13:33:35

Many of us are from the radical 60s generation. We prided ourselves on having different ideas about things from our parents. Traditionally older people have tended to get more conservative as they age. Do you expect our generation to become conservative or do you think we will go on being liberal and a bit bolshie?

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 13:32:31

Setting up and Older Women's Commission is all very well but wouldn't it become just another quango which costs a lot and achieves very little.

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:29:57

dopehed

What is the answer to the stretched middle? Is it more state intervention? or are there other ways of supporting women at this time in our lives?

I think we have to start by giving older women in particular a stronger voice in politics. My view is that the coalition government really isn't listening and just doesn't get the damage they are doing with things like changes to the pension age for women in their fifties which mean they will lose thousands of pounds with very little time to plan. We have campaigned against that. But there are challenges to all politicians. For too long politicians and journalists have talked about young people, families with children and pensioners. That misses out a vital generation who are often still working or in active retirement, supporting their families too and I think the pressures on women in their fifties and sixties are often completely overlooked. That's why Labour is keen to set up an Older Women's Commission to give the stretched middle more of a voice - and yes, to look at issues like jobs, ageism, pensions, social care etc

spamfilter Tue 10-Jul-12 13:28:20

There's been a fair bit of discussion on Gransnet about whether we want to be paid for looking after grandchildren - and the general feeling is no, because we love doing it and being paid for it would turn it into a different relationship.

So what other ways can you think of to help those of us who have - sometimes quite large - responsibilities caring for our grandchildren?

goodenoughgran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:25:11

It looks as though the government isn't going to do anything about funding social care. Do you agree that this is one of the most urgent social problems we face - and what would Labour do?

Does the 'death tax' now look like a dreadful lost opportunity?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:23:55

GadaboutGran

Like Mamie, I too would like to hear your views on the demonisation of 'baby-boomers' (as if they are an homogenous group) and the repeated suggestion that there is an inter-generational war & those of us born in the post-war period are to blame for current problems we were somehow meant to predict (and presumably should have refused our free University education etc).

Gally and others raised this one too.

I strongly disagree with David Willetts, the Conservative Minister who has argued that the baby boom generation have had it too easy at the expense of everyone else. My impression is that particularly women in their fifties and sixties are doing more than anyone else to hold families and communities together - and are at the same time paying a heavier price than many other people from the double dip recession and coalition government policies. When child care tax credit is cut, it is often grandparents who take the strain, and when social care support is cut its the same generation that has to do more to look after their elderly relatives too.

frantick Tue 10-Jul-12 13:22:33

I believe the editor of Vogue has said you are the woman she would most like to see in her magazine. Are you interested in clothes? Is it something you would ever do?