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'The thug in police uniform'. (Daily Mail today)

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Greatnan Fri 20-Jul-12 07:40:06

It is not often I find myself agreeing with the DM, but today they detail the shocking 'career' of PC Simon Harwood who was cleared of causing the death of Ian Tomlinson. The jury were not allowed to hear about the ten complaints against Harwood, who was allowed to leave one force on 'medical grounds' (such as?) before a disciplinary hearing could be held. He was then allowed to join another force and the senior police officer in charge yesterday admitted that their vetting procedure had not been adequate.
The charges against him include punching and racially abusing a 14-year old girl, abuse of authority and using unnecessary force. He admitted going into 'red mist mode'.
Ian Tomlinson's family now plan to sue him in civil court where the burden of proof is less and the judge will know Harwood's record.

Bags Sun 22-Jul-12 20:09:37

gj smile, and I don't suppose mine have even noticed.

Anagram Sun 22-Jul-12 20:08:55

Oh, snap Bags!

whenim64 Sun 22-Jul-12 20:08:41

I did Jane. Only just noticed this or I would have commented earlier. Thank you smile

Anagram Sun 22-Jul-12 20:08:31

Not at all Jane! It doesn't happen very often. smile

Bags Sun 22-Jul-12 20:08:09

Hello, jane, and welcome to GN! Och! We have our little shadowy outbursts every now and then, but they blow over like clouds on a blustery day. smile

granjura Sun 22-Jul-12 20:05:08

My (adult) kids and grand-kids don't mind at all smile

janeainsworth Sun 22-Jul-12 20:00:44

Well I must be naive as I assumed whenim64 meant PC fascists at her former place of work, not other people on this forum.
I have only just joined and didn't expect it to be fully of petty bickering and umbrage-taking.
There, I expect I've offended everyone now smile

Ariadne Sun 22-Jul-12 19:20:00

I'm with soop. Have read all the posts and am leaving it now.

merlotgran Sun 22-Jul-12 18:53:47

I've never minded anyone calling my children kids but for some reason I really hate the term, grandkids. Don't ask me why but I think grandchildren is so much more respectful.

petallus Sun 22-Jul-12 17:37:44

I thought I detected a subtle air of superiority from those saying they would never use the word 'kids'.

Bags Sun 22-Jul-12 16:15:42

soop flowers

It's nothing personal. It's the indignation against the word that's the problem.

soop Sun 22-Jul-12 16:11:52

Bloody hell, bells and spit-fire. This thread has made me feel decidedly queasy.

Bags Sun 22-Jul-12 16:07:53

Thanks, when. Indignation, that's it. That's what I'm huffy about – people's apparent indignatiion at something so innocent.

soop Sun 22-Jul-12 16:07:44

Er... 'Lecture from PC fascists!' Excoose me! I'm out of here pretty damn quick. Must be something in the water. Lord help us all if a perfectly reasonable thread goes down the pan cos someone has an alternative point of view. Cheers! Enjoy your petty wotsits...

Bags Sun 22-Jul-12 16:06:11

I suppose I don't understand what there is to dislike. It's just an alternative, inoffensive word, for child. If it was somehow derogatory or negative, I'd understand, but it isn't. [puzzled]

If I seem huffy it's because people who mind the word kid seem disapproving about perfectly respectable diction.

whenim64 Sun 22-Jul-12 16:01:14

'Kids' isn't an insulting term for children. I use it in an affectionate way. After a career spent trying to keep up to date with PC references, i am glad to be able to relax and use such words without expecting a lecture from the PC fascists. Let's keep our indignation for the truly offensive words.

soop Sun 22-Jul-12 15:52:05

Bags Either one does like something, or not. Simples! I didn't say that the word was offensive. I really don't mind what other people think. I was just saying... I'm surprised that you [my pal] sound so huffy! wink

Greatnan Sun 22-Jul-12 15:42:21

I usually say 'Hello, kids' and my grandchildren seem to like it.

Anagram Sun 22-Jul-12 15:31:18

I'm sure children don't mind being called 'kids'!

Bags Sun 22-Jul-12 15:28:35

Well I use the word kid because I think it's a friendly word. It's from the Old Norse word for kith (as in "and kin"). So you can all disapprove heartily of me and I won't care [nyah boo emoticon]. For goodness's sake! there's nothing offensive about it hmm. Sometimes I think people look for things to 'mind' about, as if there weren't enough things already that actually matter.

Yeesh! Chill, grans, chill!

(stomps off to make soothing hot brew in order to.... um... chill wink)

jack Sun 22-Jul-12 12:44:00

My DD has noted that I cannot abide the term "kids" and, I am delighted to report, always refers to the grandchildren as "children". Such a relief.

JessM Sun 22-Jul-12 12:26:05

Ah well johanna those were not the days.

Bez Sun 22-Jul-12 12:25:57

Must be in the genes then!!!!!

soop Sun 22-Jul-12 12:23:47

Bez My mother loathed the term...as did her mother.

Bez Sun 22-Jul-12 12:18:30

I hate the word too when used as a word for a child - my mother couldn't abide it either.