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Right to die, right to live, and prejudices

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Bags Thu 13-Sept-12 06:22:29

This case about a man with Down's Syndrome exposes deeply held prejudices. It appears to be the opposite of the Tony Nicklinson case. This man wants to live and his family want him to live but apparently they have no say in the matter should he need resuscitation. So, in a nutshell, it would seem that AWA, as he's called, wants to be helped to stay alive and "the authorities" won't. Tony wanted to be helped to die and "the authorities" wouldn't.

Crazy.

JO4 Thu 13-Sept-12 14:04:18

I don't want the carers in the old people's home giving me long hard stares when I'm being a pain in the bum.

I'd know just what they'd be thinking.

Seriously, I think it would be a retrograde step in the treatment of old people.

PRINTMISS Thu 13-Sept-12 16:47:05

I wonder if I might just go off track for a little? There is another side to this, a friend whose daughter had learning difficulties, not severe, but bad enough to need constant supervision, was found to have stomach cancer which was at a stage when it could be treated. Because it was appreciated she could understand what was happening, it was necessary for her to sign the consent form for an operation - she was of that age - but refused to do so on several occasions, and eventually died. I have been told there was nothing that could be done about her refusal, but I am not absolutely sure on the fact. I do know however that she was a very determined young lady, and quite aggressive on occasions.

Bags Thu 13-Sept-12 17:01:43

Thanks you for that story, printmiss. I don't think it's off track at all. She made her choice and that choice had to be accepted whatever anyone else thought.

Aruna Fri 14-Sept-12 11:00:30

Life is precious and beautiful a gift but the moral debate of allowing people with severe terminal illness or disability the right to die if they so wish is hypocritical. The Church sees no problem with able bodied young people who wish to offer their lives (which may mean to give up their life) for queen and country. Indeed it honours such sacrifice. Equally are they not comapaining to prevent those who die from addiction (a form of suicide) Indeed they are not campaining for somone not to take their own life if they so can.

Yet when one disperately ill individual asks that they should be helped to die after endless scrutiny of the the individual case they complain on moral grounds. The qulaity and suffering of that individual`s life seems unimportant. Would a loved dog to be allowed suffer in such a way? The excuse that making this legal could be abused does not hold up. It is not rocket science to ensure each case is considered on it own merit.

glassortwo Wed 19-Sept-12 13:54:57

Just found this from Tony Nicklinsons Daughter

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/16/tony-nicklinson-lauren-daughter-euthanasia

granjura Wed 19-Sept-12 14:01:36

Very moving, thank you.

Nanadogsbody Wed 19-Sept-12 14:16:44

Yes, a wonderful eulogy that gave us a glimpse of the man he truly was sad

Greatnan Wed 19-Sept-12 15:28:22

Thanks, Glass, what a wonderful article. I wish everybody had ignored the miserable, inhumane, nasty, horrible person! Not a good advert for Christianity! And mostly rubbish.

Butternut Wed 19-Sept-12 15:42:26

glass Thanks for posting this. I hope the legacy he's left will not be in vain.