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Prince Harry in Afghanistan.

(28 Posts)
Greatnan Sat 15-Sept-12 09:02:43

I cannot understand why we are being told where he is stationed - do they want to make Camp Bastion the focus of attacks? Is it fair for the other soldiers?

JO4 Sat 15-Sept-12 09:15:18

Well they reckon this latest attack was to do witht he film, not the prince. But it does make you wonder. I'm surprised they've been quite so free with the information.

Perhaps they thought Camp Bastion was impregnable. If so palace officials must be sh-----g themselves now.

Anagram Sat 15-Sept-12 09:56:22

A Taliban commander has told Sky News that Prince Harry was the primary target of an attack on a major Allied military base in Afghanistan.

(Just seen this on Sky)

JO4 Sat 15-Sept-12 10:43:48

I feel so sorry for that poor lad. It seems he can't do right for doing wrong. And he had the worst sadness imaginable so early in his life.

merlotgran Sat 15-Sept-12 11:16:00

They need to bring him home as his presence there is putting others at risk. I can't understand why we were told he was going in the first place. We don't know the names of all the other serving officers. Why put their wives and families through added stress and anxiety.

gracesmum Sat 15-Sept-12 13:23:27

But Harry can't win. If he is brought home people will say he is going for the soft option, enjoying the privilege of his royal status, if he stays he may be putting others at risk. I do feel sorry for him.

specki4eyes Sat 15-Sept-12 20:08:02

What on earth are they thinking - sending him out there in the first place! He is 3rd in line to the throne and the Taliban have already warned that they are out to get him. It is utterly ridiculous and makes all those other precious young men with him vulnerable too. I sometimes despair for the establishment nowadays - he's like a lamb to the slaughter. And if they do kill him, imagine the publicity these horrendous monsters will get down through the years! Poor Harry - he's still that little lost lad behind his mother's funeral procession, to me. Whenever will he have some peace in his life?

goldengirl Sat 15-Sept-12 20:17:01

It's the effect on the other soldiers around him. They are in additional danger because of him. Surely there is something Harry can do away from the centre of things. It's just crazy having him there even if he does want to be one of the boys. The hard fact is that he is a target and he should accept that.

POGS Sat 15-Sept-12 20:54:18

He is doing his tour of duty as he is a soldier and is with his unit. He could not look his comrades in the eye if he was not with them. If he was at home whilst they were in Afghanistan he would have the other problem of being called a coward or not a serving soldier, which is at the heart of the issue. Harry loves the army and his job and has a huge respect, earnt the right way, from his unit. He can't win either way and his absence would have been noticed in a shot by the media and possibly talked about for a longer period of time and the truth outed anyway.

Do you not think the Taliban don't know which unit he serves with and where they are?.

The Head of Camp Sebastian declared the Taliban had initially said their attack was because of the film, then changed it to Officer Wales. I would rather take his word than the Taliban. Had they been going for Harry they would have targetted the British side of the camp, surely?

Who would want to be a Royal.

Bags Sat 15-Sept-12 21:02:25

Harry can't help being a royal, but the fact that he is third in line for the throne is, as pogs so wisely says, irrelevant. He's in the army and has to do his job same as all the other army officers and squaddies. Besides, princes are supposed to lead armies into battle, aren't they? Historically, it's one of the prime duties of princes.

JO4 Sat 15-Sept-12 21:08:58

Just what I was thinking Bags. Alfred the Great for example.

POGS Sat 15-Sept-12 21:09:34

Sorry Camp Bastion not Camp Sebastian. blush

merlotgran Sat 15-Sept-12 21:36:56

Traditionally, Kings and Queens have been leaders of the armed forces so it has been a favoured occupation for their male offspring. The Queen's uncle, Prince George, Duke of Kent, served in the RAF and was killed during WW2. Prince Andrew was the first son of a monarch to have his life put at risk in modern warfare. It's understandable that Prince Harry wants to serve alongside his fellow officers but the whole world is party to what is going on in Afghanistan. He doesn't need to be there and he shouldn't be there.

POGS Sat 15-Sept-12 22:00:17

merlotgran

No family should have a son or daughter there, Royal or not!.

His unit cannot be spared a tour of duty because of his royal connections, that would be unfair on every other serviceman or woman who will have to take his units place. It's time we left Afghanistan and all of our children/husbands and wives were home.

Bags Sun 16-Sept-12 06:36:42

Merlot, why shouldn't Harry be there? He's doing his job. OK if you don't think any of our troops should be there, but if it's Ok for the others to be there but not
him, why not him? Just because he's third in line to the throne? Why is that important? There are two ahead of him and plenty after him. We are not short of people to succeed to the throne!

I don't want Harry to be killed, but I don't want any of the people out there to be killed. He's no different ESSENTIALLY from the rest – somebody's grandson, somebody's son, somebody's brother.....

Greatnan Sun 16-Sept-12 08:03:46

The only reason for thinking he should not be there is the added risk to the other soldiers.

absentgrana Sun 16-Sept-12 11:11:47

POGS is right. None of them should be there, royal or otherwise. Eleven years of achieving nothing good in a place they had no right to be to begin with.

JO4 Sun 16-Sept-12 11:15:29

Sometimes I think (especially this morning) bring them all home.

But would that be totally wasting the lives of all those already killed?

It's too hard a one for me. sad

Greatnan Sun 16-Sept-12 11:16:33

I agree - the Russians could not defeat the Taliban and neither can the British or Americans. How sad for the Afghan women who will lose all the gains they have made.

glammanana Sun 16-Sept-12 11:56:30

greatnan it seems to be going that way already as some of the schools have been closed and women teachers stopped from giving their lessons that they had fought so hard for.I am on the fence regarding Prince Harry serving in Afgan as I can see both sides very clearly,he is highly trained in his profession but is taken under close guard when there is an attack such as this one putting other live's at risk,but I agree with who ever said why did they not attack British side of Camp Bastion if they where targeting Harry.
Just heard two more soldiers killed by Afgan policeman,my heart goes out to their families

absentgrana Sun 16-Sept-12 13:08:40

JO4 Wasting more lives isn't going to help grieving families or bring back the dead.

JO4 Sun 16-Sept-12 16:27:12

True Greatnan.

I just think it might take away from the families the feeling that their sons/husbands died for a purpose. But I guess that isn't enough to justify more lives being lost.

merlotgran Sun 16-Sept-12 16:27:29

I agree that none of them should be there but I did say in an earlier post that Prince Harry's presence is putting others at risk.

JO4 Sun 16-Sept-12 16:29:52

Sorry! My post should have been to absent.

artygran Sun 16-Sept-12 19:03:33

Prince Harry will and must be allowed to do his duty. He flies one of the most sophisticated combat machines in the world and is safer within that than most of the men on the ground will ever be. Our chaps would still be targetted, shot by their own side, suffer horrendous injuries from stepping on IEDs and the rest of the horrors whether Prince Harry is there or not. The Camp Bastion incident will have taught the military a salutary lesson, and you can bet that mistakes will not allowed to be made again. I doubt if you will find many of our chaps complaining that his presence among them increases the risk to them. They would probably be dismayed to see him go home. Having said that, I agree that it's about time ALL our soldiers came home - this so-called war is unwinnable. We couldn't gain any ground in Afghanistan in the 1800s and were chased out in the most bloody and ignominious manner, and we will not win it now. But to say that does an injustice to all the men who have died and been horribly injured while serving there.