Jimmy Savile

Neither do I! Thanks Ana !

Telegraph article

Don't know what went wrong with your link. phoenix!

when that is exactly what I was saying to my DH today when discussing the situation. Pre-feminist era was so different I think people would be appalled if they went back and experienced it.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9596698/Jimmy-Saviles-4000-gravestone-to-be-dismantled-following-allegations.htm

I think there's also a typo in it, but I may be wrong.

I'm puzzled as well, Greatnan. Very hyprocitical especially as she was married to Desmond Wilcox who was a big cheese at the BBC at the time. I bet the two of them discussed the rumours. They both had high profile jobs.

The met have admitted he was a predatory sex offender! 20-30 victims

Did she "get" child abuse rather later in the day than the times she heard rumours about JS perhaps?

I am puzzled by the apparent contradiction in Esther Rantzen's attitude. On the one hand, when she founded Childline she insisted that children must be heard and believed. Now she says that there was no evidence, only rumour, so she did nothing.

The police say they are now investigating two claims of rape and six more allegations of sexual abuse against JS. They are now following up 120 leads concerning over 25 victims.

Whenim64 that is a good point and I hope you are right.

Hear hear when! I've spent a lot of time explaining to younger women this weekend, just what it was like then. I think they were very shocked at how badly women were treated.
I also told my son and daughter about my own experiences.
That felt strange too after all these years.

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My daughter has said today that she and her friends have been discussing this JS story, and they now understand why women were so forceful about feminism in the 60s and 70s. She couldn't imagine having the burden of men assuming they could touch women without their consent. Blimey - looks like some pennies may be dropping with this generation of young women who regard feminism as irrelevant. Maybe something positive will come out of us learning about what has been disclosed.

But JS is still a rotten b*****d and so are all the others who've taken advantage of those unable to object.

I thinks it's excellent that these women speaking up has released so much pent up angst. Much cleansing of spirits. So much has been bottled up for too long.

Dear Friends,
Many thanks for your kind words, and Mrs. G has no probs with genuine friendly hugs soop.

You are a terrific "bunch" of Ladies, and I thank you again for your supporting posts. This episode in my life closed many years ago now. At that time I felt terrific anger along with other feelings.

Glad gramps that your wife was there to understand what this meant to you. Well done for rising above it.

Lovely gramps - I trust that Mrs gramps won't mind if I give you a virtual hug.

gramps good that you've been able to let it out at last.

Grannyknot, there was something on the news about that today. Small comfort perhaps, but at least the money's going in the right direction.
Gramps, I'm so sorry to hear about what happened when you were younger, and how good it is that you were able to talk it away with your wife. Many years ago, when we first got together, my DH told me that something had happened to him (briefly) when he was a youth. He'd been given a lift by an older man who 'made a pass' at him when driving. DH jumped out of the car at traffic lights and ran away. I don't think he told anyone about it until he felt he could tell me many years later. He said he saw the man a few weeks later when he was out with his friends, but was too embarrassed to mention it to them.

Yes, crimson I remember that film very well.
She, Margaret Humphfreys ( I think ) received a CBE for her work.
A lady to be very much admired.

Big hug gramps. I read somewhere today (can't remember where) that some of the charities are removing JS' name from their profile and donating money to child abuse charities. A small comfort.

gramps. What you've said has prompted me to say something that I'd been thinking about these revelations about Savile. I seem to remember when I was young that the big fear that parents had was abuse by gay men to young boys. This was before it was possible for gay men to 'come out' and their lives were shrouded in guilt and cover ups. I don't know if you've seen the film 'Oranges and Sunshine' about the children that were taken to Australia from childrens homes for a 'better life'. Many of the boys were abused by the priests at the childrens homes that they went to and a social worker in Nottingham helped many of them find their families and come to terms with the abuse they suffered. A painful film to watch. I'm so glad you've been able to share your horrible experience with us and find some comfort in doing so. Big hug.

Some people would question your claim to that title!

gramps
From the most rancourous old bird on gransnet.