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Jimmy Savile

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merlotgran Mon 01-Oct-12 15:15:59

Do you believe the allegations that he groomed underage girls for sex and if so, do you hold accountable those in the media/BBC et al who heard rumours, had suspicions, saw evidence etc., but said nothing (probably to protect their careers)?

Personally, I always thought he was weird - even going back as far as schooldays when he was an up and coming DJ. I wouldn't have been at all surprised if all this had come out years ago and maybe it should.

Mishap Tue 13-Nov-12 14:05:06

Found the article - phew! I think I need a lie-down!

Anne58 Tue 13-Nov-12 13:52:47

Very well put, Greatnan

Greatnan Tue 13-Nov-12 13:34:20

I hope that all men (possibly some women) who have abused vulnerable people are shaking in their shoes. I have no sympathy for them - they cannot help their desires, but they didn't have to act on them, and their targeting of powerless victims makes them beyond pity.

feetlebaum Tue 13-Nov-12 13:13:12

Yes the Gilbert Harding interview was in the series Face to Face in which celebrities were interviewed by John Freeman. It was unusually probing for the time - Harding was reduced to tears by the subject of his mother who was, I believe, recently deceased.

Another famous interview in the series was that with Tony Hancock, who was obviously uncomfortable under the pressure of questions about his happiness or otherwise, and the money his success had, at that time brought him.

The set consisted of panels with expressionist portraits of the interviewee by Feliks Topolski.

soop Tue 13-Nov-12 12:27:31

God help them! angry

Anne58 Tue 13-Nov-12 12:23:18

Mishap you will find the article within the list, then click on it to read.

Mishap Tue 13-Nov-12 12:16:19

I can't get into the article either - just teh lrb and a list of books. Any advice?

absentgrana Tue 13-Nov-12 12:13:50

Marelli Was it a programme called Face to Face?

Anne58 Tue 13-Nov-12 12:02:31

2 more arrests, a retired bishop and a vicar.

Marelli Mon 12-Nov-12 20:53:50

I think I remember Gilbert Harding being interviewed on television - there was a recording of it a while ago. He appeared to be very 'depressed' and wanted to die - he seemed as if there was something that he wanted to say, but didn't. Can anyone else remember seeing that programme?

merlotgran Mon 12-Nov-12 20:42:48

Thank you, anno. Right under my nose.

What a shocking article. angry I remember my parents and grandparents saying Gilbert Harding was a grumpy old so and so but he was a respected TV personality. I was nine when I realised Uncle Mac only had one eye, one leg and was in a wheelchair. In my mind's eye he had the looks of a matinee idol. I wouldn't have understood anything else. How duped we all were. What bastards!

glassortwo Mon 12-Nov-12 19:55:39

Just read the article I am speechless angry sad

Marelli Mon 12-Nov-12 19:18:30

Have just read the article. It's astounding.....angrysad

annodomini Mon 12-Nov-12 18:51:54

It's one of the articles in the table of contents on that page, merlot!

merlotgran Mon 12-Nov-12 18:43:34

I'm getting the London Review of Books page as well confused

Ana Mon 12-Nov-12 11:16:30

Ignore that, folks - found it now! blush

Ana Mon 12-Nov-12 11:15:30

What article? All I get is from the link is a London Review of Books page...confused

glitabo Mon 12-Nov-12 11:02:33

I have just read the article. I found it both shocking and not surprising at the same time if that is possible.

Ana Mon 12-Nov-12 10:49:15

Quite, when! hmm

whenim64 Mon 12-Nov-12 10:47:23

Perhaps she didn't enjoy the protection of the old boy network, Ana!

Ana Mon 12-Nov-12 10:44:40

I remember there was some allegation that Isobel Barnett was 'spying' on girls in department store changing rooms around then - extremely shocking for that era!

whenim64 Mon 12-Nov-12 10:38:01

The article chronicles how that abusive culture has developed at the Beeb. It's interesting to compare how Isobel Barnett was berated in sensational headlines for petty shop lifting during those years, yet known paedophiles enjoyed years of protection.

petallus Mon 12-Nov-12 10:15:41

Fantastic article, thanks for link.

Not surprised at anything in it.

jO5 Mon 12-Nov-12 10:11:46

Has John Simpson ever admitted that the 'Uncle' he referred to was, in fact, Derek McCulloch?

annodomini Mon 12-Nov-12 09:50:27

Uncle Mac, Lionel Gamlin - Top of the Form - the shaky bedrock of our childhood.