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Gransnet is right wing?

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Nanadog Sat 10-Nov-12 23:39:03

Just come back from the local curry house where my DD, DiL and myself have our monthly girls night out. argument discussion arose about Mumsnet and Gransnet. Both DD and DiL declared thry would have nothing to go with Mumsnet as too right wing and (from a position of ignorance/assumption) castigated me for advocating GN declaring it to be right wing too.
Not so! Said I, in defence mode and thinking of greatnan, bags, myself and others we're definitely to the left of centre.
Was I right?

Ella46 Sun 11-Nov-12 11:11:50

I'e always voted Conservative, but I won't be next time!
Mind you,I won't be voting Labour either!

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 10:59:33

We did have a couple of Cameron supporters but they seem to have gone to ground. Can't blame them.

Sel Sun 11-Nov-12 10:52:18

We all make assumptions, we all generalise and some are not open to any view except their own entrenched one. As you move through life, hopefully you meet a wide variety of people and a wide variety of views. I don't like being labeled as I don't conform to any particular category - a sort of pick and mix person.

As regards politics, things won't change. The Left is funded by the Unions, the Right by business. In my simplistic view, business creates wealth and takes the risks neeeded to do that. That wealth is needed to support those that require it and to care for and educate the people.

As petallus said, I'll get my coat (love that!) I'm off to spend money to help the economy smile

crimson Sun 11-Nov-12 10:49:10

Crikey; instead of looking at any news items when I get back from work now, I just go straight to gransnet for in intelligent, informed, up to the minute resume [is that the right word] of what's what in the world. Never a right wing propoganda forum. Heck; look at the all round sigh of relief when Obama was re elected!

annodomini Sun 11-Nov-12 10:29:01

You'd have to be very far to the left to view the regular posters (like me!) as right wing.

Barrow Sun 11-Nov-12 09:51:34

I would say the majority of posters lean to the left politically. However, as has been said previously, this is not a politics site so what does it matter. In some cases I am somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan! but would consider myself more just right of centre.

As for education, I went to a (poor) secondary school and left when I was 16 - all my education has come from life itself. Most of the teachers in my school were just marking time until they could retire. I only had one good teacher, a Miss Kerslake, who taught English and instilled in me a love of books and reading.

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 09:31:39

I agree,VQ - it would be very bland if we all agreed about everything! I can't honestly say my views have changed about newspapers which constantly criticise single mothers or the unemployed but I am always open to be persuaded by rational argument.

jO5 Sun 11-Nov-12 09:29:50

I have voted labour all my voting life.

vampirequeen Sun 11-Nov-12 09:26:46

I'm a product of a very deprived comprehensive school but I have also been a teacher so I fit the professional description.

I'm to the left of Marx in some of my views lol. I can't say I've noticed GN being particularly right wing. Sometimes things are said that make me sit up and think. Maybe even shake me out of my pink/red world view. I like being part of a group with such a range of opinions and beliefs.

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 08:51:48

I would not dream of pointing out grammatical or spelling errors in another member's post, but I do e-mail newspapers when they use the wrong past tenses, or even the 'nob's prounoun' ('between you and I'). I expect journalists, proof readers and sub editors to understand the rules of English.

JessM Sun 11-Nov-12 08:33:34

There certainly do not seem to be many voices raised in support of our current government, do there. Surely they must have some Dave fans on GN who would support their policies? Give us a good debate? Anyone?

Suspect the grammar thing goes with the generation. That is wot we was taught.
I dont consider myself to be pedantic (unless it is an official, formal document)
But I have twice written emails to point out the errors in email newsletters etc.
One said something like "It's true there is only 56 days left till Christmas" (so why don't you advertise with us...)
and the other was a high powered report by some lobbyists in which they had mixed up their "sewage" with their "sewerage". Seeing as the audience was people concerned with water policy this was a terrible error and I thought it kind to point it out to them! (I did not know until I worked in the water industry - but they all do - sewerage is the system of pipes, sewage is the stuff inside them!)

petallus Sun 11-Nov-12 08:21:48

That's strange, a post of mine has not appeared so here it is again.

I do agree Greatnan that only certain types post. And yes, I should have said well educated because I was thinking that most of us posters have had grammar school educations or gone to church schools or whatever.

Another thing for the list before I get my coat, being overly concerned with correct grammar.

Butty Sun 11-Nov-12 08:12:40

ff I like your last sentence - just about sums up what's important.

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 08:08:40

I haven't noticed a preponderance of privately-educated members - most of us seem to have attended grammar schools.

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 08:07:25

Petallus - do you think our membership might cover the entire social spectrum, but only the type of people you mention wish to take part in many discussions?

petallus Sun 11-Nov-12 08:03:51

I've visited Mumsnet and don't think of it as right wing at all (I'm left leaning and never vote Conservative).

Gransnet, not right wing but ....

Compared to some other sites we do seem to have a high proportion of middle class, privately educated, professional types.

Also, we do get the odd post which fits in with young people's ideas of older folk, an emphasis on good behaviour, manners, certain attitudes to people who don't/cannot work.

I'll get my coat!

Greatnan Sun 11-Nov-12 08:03:19

I suspect, Jane, that it only exposed the stance of those who wished to declare themselves!
I am not surprised that many members do not wish to take part in our more controversial debates Not everybody enjoys argument or feels confident enough to put their views forward. This inevitably means that such threads tend to be dominated by those members who are working or retired professionals, such as teachers, civil servants, or medical professionals.
In general, we are used to taking part in debate and do not take opposing views as personal attacks.
Every member has an equal right to contribute but we cannot force people to take part if they prefer to lurk.

flowerfriend Sun 11-Nov-12 08:01:21

When I joined GN the thing that impressed me the most was that most people who posted their opinions were generally very broad-minded. And I like that.

Having an open mind and a generous spirit is what is important.

janeainsworth Sun 11-Nov-12 07:35:31

www.gransnet.com/forums/politics/a1194421-Where-are-you-on-the-spectrum

This recent thread exposed us all as left-wing libertarians.
Personally I was surprised to find myself in that group, as I usually vote Conservative [ducks].
I agree with Sel that not everyone to the right of centre is bad and uncaring.

Nanadog Sun 11-Nov-12 05:20:06

The OP was defending GN against a charge of being 'too right wing'* not right wing. My DD in particular was shocked at some of the extreme views expressed on the site I mentioned and won't have anything to do with it. It was assumed by them that GN was of the same ilk. I simply said, if anything, it was to the left of centre.

There was no implication that right = uncaring, bad people and left the opposite sel but I do think that extreme views of either persuasion are 'bad' if you want to put it simplistically.

Sel Sun 11-Nov-12 00:18:18

From my fairly brief experience...ahem...if you wish to label people by their political persuasions then I would say the most regular posters are solidly left wing. I have no idea how many members there are but there certainly seem to be core posters and I don't think I've seen any right wing views expressed. Several middle possibly.

I'm not sure what the relevance is, this isn't a political forum, it's a grandparents' one. What the OP implies I think, is that right = uncaring, 'bad' people and left equals the opposite. A view I would dispute.

From reading the bios of those who have made them available, there seem to be many ex teachers & public sector employees who may be more left inclined.

I've worked in local government and also had my own business employing people and have voted in a variety of ways throughout my life. My father voted Labour all his life, my mother, Conservative.

jeni Sun 11-Nov-12 00:16:37

Good!
Feel a march coming on!

glassortwo Sun 11-Nov-12 00:13:06

night night jeni moon

glassortwo Sun 11-Nov-12 00:12:24

Dusting off the flag now jeni

jeni Sun 11-Nov-12 00:12:05

And the dawn will be coming if I don't get to bed!
Night all moon