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Ivanhoe Fri 08-Feb-13 23:45:53

absentgrana, Since the 80's and Thatcher, the NHS has been funded via right wing low income tax trickle down economics.

Britain is a low income tax, low waged nation.

Ivanhoe Fri 08-Feb-13 23:42:22

Fondasharing. "Actually he isn't clueless. He wants to dismantle the welfare state""

Got it in one.

The right wing Tory's are a low income tax, small State political party, who have an inherent loathing of the State and the welfare State......

spabbygirl Fri 07-Dec-12 13:18:35

I totally agree with JessM & Fondasharing too, I love your grans comment - so right! It is a clever strategy. What gets me really miffed is that they'll do nothing about the wealthy (like Sir Philip Green who owns Topshop etc) or Google or Amazon who openly exploit loopholes in the tax system, but the poorest have to subsidise that with reduced benefits. I suppose that means they'll work for the poor wages that topshop, amazon etc probably offer so double good for wealthy business owners.
I like Ed Ball's line too! The Chancellor is drowning. Lets hope they all drown at the next election!

absentgrana Thu 06-Dec-12 08:57:10

It now turns out that they have been lying when they said that the NHS had received increased funding year on year in real terms and David Cameron and Jeremy Hunt have been formally asked to correct this. The latter is now weaseling.

Fondasharing Thu 06-Dec-12 08:53:20

I agree with everything you say JessM.

Could not resist copying this blog from the Guardian after the summary of the cuts to the Benefit System in the "Autumn" statement. One blogger called Osbourne *clueless". This was the response:

"Actually he isn't clueless. He wants to dismantle the welfare state. What better way to do this by reducing taxes for the wealthy, which reduces govt revenues which means more slashing of govt workforces which means less tax revenues for govt because they are unemployed which means more austerity measures necessary so slash govt services (which are mainly used by the poor, who don't vote Tory anyway so no loss there). Lowering taxes for the rich is win win. It makes the govt poorer so more austerity required and it makes the rich happy who vote Tory. Osbourne just keeps doing this bit by bit so as not to be too obvious and start a massive backlash. Just keep chipping away. Not the deficit, but the welfare state. It's the perfect strategy. "

What a mess! The Conservatives are doing what my Gran always said they do: Conserve the money for themselves!

JessM Thu 06-Dec-12 07:21:18

Winter does not have the right marketing vibe maybe absent?
The autumn statement seems to have been a damp squib doesn't it. His forecasts are leading to threats of triple A rating being under threat.
I liked Ed Ball's line "The chancellor is not wavering but drowning."
is there anything in the Statement that we should note anyone?

absentgrana Wed 05-Dec-12 08:45:36

How can it be an Autumn Statement? It's 5 December – or has the Government decided to alter the seasons?

FlicketyB Tue 04-Dec-12 22:18:30

Who wants to bet how long it will be before Cameron changes his mind and decides the money will go on something else. He is already back-peddling on his first announcements about Leveson because of the strong public reaction.

vampirequeen Tue 04-Dec-12 21:01:52

It's all spin and hype.

JessM Tue 04-Dec-12 19:33:11

This from the BBC:
Treasury sources say that Wednesday's Autumn Statement will spell out how £1bn will go towards building 100 new free schools and academies, creating an additional 50,000 new school places.
This is cynical spin. School building under labour was very significant and went a long way to bring education buildings back up to scratch. In 1997 many of them were in a desperate state due to Tory non-funding.
At the last election there were still some schools that had been promised new buildings - in a real mess and desperately in need. This programme was cut by Gove.
Now the public spending cuts are being spun as "to build schools".
But, we should note, "new schools". hmm If you are a school that does not want to become an academy I guess you will not be eligible. A way of forcing academy status on unwilling boards of governors and heads. They will call it a new school, and a "new school place" when actually it is just a new building for a school that has to become an academy or put up with terrible accommodation.
Or, even worse, is Gove planning to give substantial sums of money away to anyone who fancies starting a "free school" .
Will Gove really cut his civil servant count by half while managing this lot. I doubt it.
Head in hands. They go from bad to worse.