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bluebell Fri 14-Dec-12 19:23:29

It's just heartbreaking isn't it and all the more so because nothing will change. The price of the 2nd amendment ...

whenim64 Fri 14-Dec-12 19:43:09

Tragic, and so terrible to see those little children being led out of the school looking so frightened. What's going on that needs guns to be available to every citizen or deranged nut-job? I know anyone can get hold of a gun if they're determined, but the gun culture is pervasive in the USA.

crimson Fri 14-Dec-12 19:49:59

I can't fine the words to describe how I feel about the awfulness of this. Mindless; senseless.

JessM Fri 14-Dec-12 20:33:22

It is so sad that they just don't "get it". After we had Dunblane we tightened out gun laws. it could still happen here, but it is so easy in the states for unbalanced people to stockpile not just revolvers and shotguns but serious military firepower. sad

Marelli Fri 14-Dec-12 20:41:10

The poor little children. There are no words that can describe the horror of this.

hummingbird Fri 14-Dec-12 21:07:42

Why would anyone, deranged or otherwise, want to slaughter innocent babies? My heart bleeds.

janeainsworth Fri 14-Dec-12 21:46:46

Just seen President Obama's speech - very moving.
He said things must change 'despite the politics'.
Let's hope that he can bring this about.

Sel Fri 14-Dec-12 22:10:29

jane don't hold your breath. The gun lobby is very powerful in the US. You would think they would just study the statistics and realise. Sad, yet again.

merlotgran Fri 14-Dec-12 22:15:19

Just been watching it on the News. Those poor children, parents and teachers. The killer was the son of one of the teachers and it appears he shot his own mother dead as well as the other victims. What an unbelievable tragedy.

POGS Fri 14-Dec-12 22:39:14

Absolutely tragic.

How can we remotely understand how those poor people are suffering right now.

I know I gave my GD a big big hug when I saw her today after watching it unfold. sad

Nanadog Fri 14-Dec-12 22:54:43

I thought I'd cried myself dry today...then I turned on the news. No,no,no.

Deedaa Fri 14-Dec-12 22:56:00

I'm a bit biased on this one as I was involved in shooting in the days when we were allowed to have guns, and it still irks me that many perfectly law abiding people, most of whom would never even have shot a rat never mind a person, were deprived of their sport while the criminal fraternity amasses more and more weapons and uses them with impunity. But if you watch any of the American gun programmes they are jaw droppingly appalling. People are hoarding arsenals of the most lethal weapons that no normal person could have any legitimate use for and in most states there is nothing to stop them. their attitude seems to be that if some innocent people get killed it's unfortunate, but s**t happens. Studying statistics has no chance in that sort of culture. Sad but true.

Jodi Fri 14-Dec-12 23:12:55

nanadog you're back ((((hugs)))) this must be very hard for you today of all days flowers

Nanadog Fri 14-Dec-12 23:14:37

Thanks jodi

gracesmum Fri 14-Dec-12 23:16:03

What a dreadful dreadful thing. Unbearable to watch or listen to. My heart goes out to those poor people - just can't understand any of it.
Poor nanadog - appalling timing for you flowers and flowers to those people in the US.

merlotgran Fri 14-Dec-12 23:19:59

flowers Nanadog Nice to see you back.

Ana Fri 14-Dec-12 23:22:47

Nanad - lovely that you're back with us. {{hugs}}

glassortwo Fri 14-Dec-12 23:28:58

nanad good to see you back {{{hugs}}}

whenim64 Fri 14-Dec-12 23:42:42

Nanadog welcome back, such a distressing time for those poor parents and their children. Obama has got to do something about gun control this time.

POGS Fri 14-Dec-12 23:44:56

Nana

wine

annodomini Sat 15-Dec-12 09:28:52

The gunman is said to have used weapons belonging to his mother whom he also shot. That raises the question of why a middle-aged teacher should need to have two semi-automatic pistols and a high-powered rifle. This is frightening. Obama alone cannot do anything about gun control. He would need immense public support and the backing of Congress and, given a few weeks, the gun lobby will have marshalled its support.

bluebell Sat 15-Dec-12 10:04:55

Sadly annodomino you are right. The NRA is very powerful and wealthy and has lots of politicians ( not only Republicans sadly) in its (very deep) pockets. As has been said before - the USA a country where to best arms is a right and healthcare a privilege

bluebell Sat 15-Dec-12 10:05:51

Bear not best - * predictive testing

Deedaa Sat 15-Dec-12 22:10:32

I heard the suggestion this morning that all schools in America should have guns for defence! I am hoping this is not a serious suggestion, but sadly I think the overwhelming response will be "We need more guns".

annodomini Sat 15-Dec-12 22:36:26

Spurred on, no doubt, by the religious right.