Andrew Mitchell

I don't support AM as he seems to have behaved badly during the incident. The notion of some kind of conspiracy to do him down is just shocking. Especially coming so soon after Hillsborough, recent revelations on JSaville and West Yorkshire Police and the current Mark Duggan trial. I have worked with so many good police officers, and so few I wouldn't trust at all. Let's hope there is a proper investigation with disciplinary action if that's needed.

Why Petallus?

I even think they should have opened the gate for him.

(up with bikes)

I am surprised that there is so much support for AM

I can't understand why it's been allowed to drag on for so long.

I suspect there's been wrongdoing by the police/Police Federation and the government couldn't face tackling it.

Theresa May seems to have finally lost patience - maybe she'll now push the CPS to take action.

Pollaidh my thoughts exactly.

This whole thing is a pantomime with a cast of villains of various shades. Many of us on GN grew up well versed in police corruption/lies/ cover-up - the Met, WestMidlands, Guildford 4, Birmingham 6- the 1984 PACE resulted from much of that appalling behaviour towards suspects . The treatment of the miners during the strike and Thatcher's rewards to the police made them feel inviolable. Throw Hillsborough into the mix, de Menezes, Tomlinson and a useless IPCC and there is much to worry about that the gimmick of elected PCCs does nothing to address.

I cannot understand why they are digging their heels in and resisting a proper public enquiry. Why should they feel the need to protect their officers if they have done nothing wrong.

It's the 3 chief constables of the 3 police officers at the meeting ( who represented the Police Federation) who are to go before the select committee - dont know about IPCC and Police Fed but deffo not the 3 officers

I heard they had asked to appear before the Select Committee as it was the only forum left open to them to clarify their case.
The whole thing smacks of disproportionate revenge on a discourteous MP, undertaken as a reaction to cuts in police budgets. No-one comes out clean on this - but a stupid remark from a stressed cyclist who should have known better counts to me as far less worrying than a network of malicious intrigue amongst law officers.

Confirmed.

Next Wednesday The Police Federation, The IPCC and the 3 Police Officers have been called before the Home Affairs Select Committee.

It will possibly be shown on Freeview 81 BBC Parliament? It will be interesting viewing if it is.

birdie

In response to your post I believe the three Police Officers involved with the meeting, not the officers involved at the gates of no. 10, have been called before the Select Committee next Wednesday. I do not want to be held to that statement, it is just something I have picked up on, rightly or wrongly.

And should have read "bring to book"! Not book 'em!

Not infiltrated. Kittylester

Throws Fire out of kitchen window

Yes it is infiltrated. But the Chief Constables are refusing to bring to book the lying policemen involved.

One year on, what he actually said is almost irrelevant - the behaviour of the police and their Federation is now the issue.

I thought it was now accepted that he didn't say 'pleb'

Sir Hugh Orde was speaking on Today programme this morning. He said that in Northern Ireland he was able to refer all complaints to an impartial Police ombudsman. What are all these elected Police and Crime Commissioners for?

As I have said before on this thread, the using of the swearword man to man was fine.

I do NOT for one moment believe he used the word "plebs". That was a lie by the police to forWard their own agenda against the conservative government. I hope the Chief Constables are made to sort it out.

In my book, the man did no wrong.

Pleb is exactly the kind of word someone like him would use though.

Point is he is being treated the same as (some) other people... Police closing ranks sound familiar?

From here.( must wake up).

Pogs Sorry I'm not implying he should be treated any differently, my point was that the IPCC started this investigation, and now don't like the outcome. Why not have a Select commitee to investigate these matters, but then people will say that it's not independant. As I say where to from hear?.

He taped the meeting with the Police Federation, fortunately for him. This is proof the three officers from the Police Federation told a lie immediately afterwards by saying on camera he had offered no comment on the event.

I am sorry that being a so-called 'toff' means you can be treated differently to, shall I say, a 'working class' person. Why should that matter? If the view is well he's a toff he deserved to be 'possibly' set up by the police is the answer, I despair.

The IPCC are not happy with the result of an enquiry, into this story, by three police forces. The puzzling part is, the IPCC monitored this enquiry, and now doesn't like the outcome. Where to from here?. As Trendygran said, he thinks he is above everyone, just like a lot of the "Elites" at Westminster.

trendygran

He DID use the 'F' word. He has never denied that he totally denies using the word PLEB. There was an apology made and accepted for using the 'F' word.