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Cornish councillor's disgusting statement

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Barrow Wed 27-Feb-13 11:24:42

Has anyone else read the story of a Cornish councillor who stated that "disabled children cost the council too much money and should be put down"

He apparently made the statement to a charity worker in October 2011 but has only just written a letter of apology. He now says he made the comment to "provoke a reaction". He also says that it is not something he would consider resigning over.

glammanana Wed 27-Feb-13 11:30:09

If this is proved to be true he definiatley should not resign he should be sacked.

absent Wed 27-Feb-13 11:45:31

It sounds to me as if a certain Cornish councillor may not be value for money and perhaps he should be put down.

shysal Wed 27-Feb-13 12:15:34

shock

Marelli Wed 27-Feb-13 12:15:52

Oh dear, what an awful person. Just read Barrow's post out to my DH, who commented, "Flushing him down the toilet would be a waste of good water". I thoroughly agree with him. angry

gracesmum Wed 27-Feb-13 12:17:31

Shocked and very very angry.Sacking too good for him.angry

Galen Wed 27-Feb-13 12:20:08

angry

Ariadne Wed 27-Feb-13 12:22:35

angry too!

Marelli Wed 27-Feb-13 12:25:37

Surely if there witnesses to his statement he could be charged under the Disability Discrimination Act? What was the reaction he was trying to provoke?

glassortwo Wed 27-Feb-13 12:30:10

angry

j08 Wed 27-Feb-13 12:35:38

story here

I'm just surprised he got out of the hall with all his body parts intact.

j08 Wed 27-Feb-13 12:37:20

It was 2011. Why didn't the charity worker who he said it to, do something?!

Wouldn't you have got straight on to the newspapers? confused

vampirequeen Wed 27-Feb-13 13:08:58

That's appalling. Maybe the charity worker thought that the investigation would impose greater sanctions than simply writing a letter.

Marelli Wed 27-Feb-13 13:15:52

I've just read the report and voted that he should resign.

absent Wed 27-Feb-13 13:16:47

Marelli I don't think such a comment constitutes discrimination in the same way as, say, refusing to employ someone because they have a disability. It was just massively offensive. At the time, there was still a law in place about making an offensive statement that could cause distress to anyone hearing it, although that has now been changed. (It was the law under which a student was arrested for describing a policeman's horse as gay.)

j08 Complaining to the Council was surely the appropriate way to deal with the matter. The Council, however, does not seem to have responded in a similarly appropriate way. I know MPs can't be sacked; can councillors?

j08 Wed 27-Feb-13 13:34:48

Maybe the "appropriate way" Absent, but perhaps less effective.

Marelli Wed 27-Feb-13 13:41:53

I'm not sure, absent. Verbal discrimination re disability may work the same as verbal racial discrimination - all applying to the Human Rights Act. He didn't 'abuse' a person, but used an abusive remark. I wouldn't want him as my councillor, however hard he tried to redeem himself.

Mishap Wed 27-Feb-13 13:49:12

It seems impossible to imagine that this comment was made seriously. It might be that it was said ironically to make a point about lack of funding - but it is unbelievable that a councillor would make such a comment with any serious intent. Bizzarre in the extreme. I cannot imaginer what he was thinking - if anything.

Barrow Wed 27-Feb-13 14:02:54

Thanks jo8 for posting the link - something beyond my capabilities!

I know there are some people who would think this comment could be taken as a joke - can't say I share that kind of sense of humour. He has said that he had just come from a difficult council meeting, as if that could excuse his remarks. I can only hope that his constituents call for his resignation and failing that don't re-elect him. Horrible man

Gemmasue Wed 27-Feb-13 17:11:22

Having a child with a disability myself I was horrified to see this but thank goodness most people do not think like this councillor. Having been to a difficult meeting is no excuse for such a thoughtless remark which could cause offence and distress, and as for wanting to provoke a reaction,I hope his fellow councillors and his constituents are provoked enough to call for his resignation

Ariadne Wed 27-Feb-13 18:55:16

I just saw him on the local news, grovelling. There is absolutely NO excuse for his behaviour or for allowing him to continue in office!

annodomini Wed 27-Feb-13 19:21:50

If he weren't an independent, his party would probably throw him out. I would have when I was handling party discipline!

susieb755 Wed 27-Feb-13 22:38:46

His comments were illegal, as they actually constitute a hate crime, so he could have been reported to the police at the time - hate crime has to be perceived by the person on the receiving end as a hate crime for it to be upheld, so the worker could have reported it, and I am surprised they didn't

I am registered disabled myself, and am shocked by the attitude shown to disabled people - I work full time, but am a blue badge holder, and have heard comments such as I must be a scrounger because I look physically OK, its hard to keep my mouth shut sometimes especially when Im on duty !

Joan Thu 28-Feb-13 02:09:57

He should go. That comment revealed his inner Nazi: they DID kill disabled children as well as disabled adults.

absent Thu 28-Feb-13 07:17:37

I don't see how just saying something thoroughly nasty can be a hate crime – no crime was committed. He didn't actually try to put down disabled children, he just said that they should be. I'm not sure he even said it to a disabled person directly. It was an appalling thing to say, but I cannot see that it should be treated as a crime. If he doesn't resign now, he will almost certainly lose his seat at the next election.