Vicky Price

I feel sorry for her. Going to prison for that. Seems harsh.

So it's all right to conspire to allow a speed merchant to carry on driving? As long as he doesn't harm anyone you care about? And lying is ok within the criminal justice system?

You've really got a bee in your bonnet about Vicky Pryce, haven't you, bluebell?

No I've got a bee in my bonnet about honesty, the importance of the rule of law and equality of women - and the cost to the state of this case equals several years of benefits paid to a certain woman with 11 children. Tell me Ana why is lying in this situation ok for either of them?

Oh, of course it's not right bluebell. Can't get steamed up about it though.

Ana - when anyone doesn't agree with you, you always accuse them of over- reacting. Why is that?

Did I say it was?

Eh? When did I ever accuse anyone of over-reacting? Think you've got the wrong person there...

Probably cos a lot of people on here do overreact. Or react quite strangely.

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Night.

Night jingl

They are both very unpleasant people and will get what's coming to them.....I hope.

Obviously a women scourned but basically she bit off her nose to spite her face and made herself look like a crazy lady in the process.

A woman of great expertise in economics, a frequent contributor to Newsnight, she has committed career suicide, quite unnecessarily.

You know what the best punishment would be? Make them share a cell!!!

Half of me feels sorry for them both, the other half just sees them as the rich and shameless getting what they deserve.

The story is a true tragedy in the Shakespearean sense, the way they've both been brought down by their own character failings.

Ana

It makes me smile that Chris Huhne will get a reduction in his sentence for pleading guilty and Vicky Pryce won't. I feel that she has done a great disservice to women who really do suffer marital coercion and abuse.

One has to feel sorry for the children who had the misfortune to be born with those two as parents.

This is just what the pair of them have been caught for. They may not have done anything horrendous - murdered anyone or such - but it doesn't say a lot for their moral values.
No sympathy.

Ana if you say to someone they have a bee in their bonnet, many people will interpret that as "you're over reacting" or "you're obsessed" . It's having a go at the person, not debating the issue.
I agree kitty that it was a demeaning defence because there must be many circumstances in which women do illegal things because they are afraid of being attacked by their husbands. On the other hand if he was a bully in the relationship it is very hard to stand up to such a man, or indeed to leave them.
It highlights the continuing inequalities. I'd bet there are loads of women who take their husbands speeding points. I wonder how many husbands do the same for wives? Wouldn't it be utterly fascinating to know.
She made a huge mistake in revealing this to a journalist. Beware of sympathetic journalists buying you a nice lunch. It does highlight that revenge (or indiscretion over a nice lunch) can turn round and bite you doesn't it.

Ana - I have a 'bee in my bonnet' that your latest comment is part of a trend - on Frank's tree-planting thread you came in very early with comments about criminal damage and trespass and then, when some of us said it wasn't that big a deal, you talked about pro- council posters getting aereated and told us to calm down. Then on the D of C baby thread, there was a comment from you about anti- royalists who can't resist letting everyone know about it. So just 3 examples in the last couple of days where your comments can be seen as quite snide and dismissive of a certain set of views that don't coincide with yours rather than addressing the issues. As for Vicky Pryce, plenty of people seem
to have a bee on their bonnet about several important issues that this case illustrates. Argue with the issues Ana and try and do it without putting the poster down.

That's a bit harsh bluebell.
As for Vicky Pryce, I like jadey's summary.
Lady Moon's(anyone remember her?) mode if revenge was far more sensible in my opinion.
(She just cut up all her husband's suits, making incisions in strategic anatomical parts)

Jane - nowhere near as tough as it could have been!!

They committed a crime, and have been found guilty. (But still the "coercion" bit lingers in the mind, given the heartfelt evidence from some Gransnetters..)

I am sure marital coercion exists for women under pressure and who are in very dominating relationships. I would would very much doubt that such a sucessful, well educated and financially secure woman as she is could be easily cooerced by anyone.

Bluebell have you come here from Mumsnet by any chance? Or from Saga when they had to shut the forums down? No offence. Just wondering.

You seem to want to be "tough" which could be interpreted as something else on a forum.