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Do we need more weapons of mass destruction?

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Greatnan Thu 04-Apr-13 10:42:26

Does anybody seriously think that North Korea is a threat to the UK? Even if it is, surely we have enough nuclear arms now to wipe out that small nation.
At a time when so many people are being threatened with the loss of essential benefits, is it not time for Britain to stop pretending to be a world power and leave the big boys to get on with it.
I fear that there are too many people in positions of power who have a vested interest in the arms industry - just as there was in the First World War.

absent Thu 04-Apr-13 10:59:22

I should have thought that the top areas of risk for the UK in terms of external attack are terrorism and cyber crime. Neither of these can be countered with nuclear weapons. In spite of David Cameron's extraordinarily illogical statement that we need to replace Trident in the light of North Korea's threat – which was to South Korea and the USA, not the UK – even the Government does not regard an attack by any nation state as even a medium-level risk. I agree that the desire to possess these weapons is to ensure that Brit politicians still have a seat at the top table in spite of the Uk's being a third- or fourth-rate power and interest in the arms industry, as you say Greatnan.

whenim64 Thu 04-Apr-13 11:49:43

We are a group of little islands with delusions of grandeur. We can't afford Trident, and we don't need it to deal with a 20 something kid in North Korea - he will get flattened from a great height without any intervention from David Cameron.

granjura Thu 04-Apr-13 11:53:59

CND have been warning about proliferation from the very start- and were scorned and laughed at by the great majority in the UK. They were totally right of course - why would any other nation in the world accept that the UK and US are so superior that we are 'entitled to be trusted with nuclear weapons' and have the right to stop others from having them? The arrogance and stupidity is beyond the beyond sad The current situation with North Korea is really worrying.

j08 Thu 04-Apr-13 12:01:58

We do need Trident. Pyongyang is likely to be north Korea's leader for a long time. At thirty he's not a baby. He's unlikely to change. China is reluctant to intervene. The US could be at risk in the future, and we would probably get drawn into yet another war. We have to afford Trident.

Greatnan Thu 04-Apr-13 12:03:03

It was a great mistake to allow Israel to have nuclear weapons - no wonder its neighbours feel threatened.

Greatnan Thu 04-Apr-13 12:04:07

Jingle - do you really think Britain would loose a nuclear bomb on NK?

j08 Thu 04-Apr-13 12:04:36

Do you really think our getting rid of Trident would stop N Korea and Iran developing nuclear weapons?

j08 Thu 04-Apr-13 12:05:24

Deterrent. Hopefully.

Granny23 Thu 04-Apr-13 12:14:55

Seems like a good place to post these:

To show Scotland's opposition to Trident nuclear weapons there will be demonstrations in Glasgow on Saturday 13 April and at Faslane on Monday 15 April. (http://scraptrident.org) If you are able, please come along to show your support.

GLASGOW DEMONSTRATION SATURDAY 13 APRIL

10.15 Assemble George Square
10.45 March off for march around city centre
11.15 - 13.15 Rally - speakers include Partick Harvie MSP (Greens) & Sandra White MSP (SNP)

If you are able to help with stewarding or with handing out leaflets, please email [email protected]

WORKSHOPS SUNDAY 14 APRIL

Workshops will be held in Glasgow to prepare for the Faslane blockade.

FASLANE BLOCKADE MONDAY 15 APRIL

Hundreds of people will take part in a blockade of the Faslane Trident base. There will also be a supporting demonstration for those who do not want to risk arrest. If you would like to take part, please complete the registration form and download the blockade briefing. Both are on http://scraptrident.org
ALSO -

Granny23 Thu 04-Apr-13 12:18:33

Sorry, posted too soon.

On behalf of Scottish CND and Abolition 2000 we would like to extend an invitation to you to attend the Abolition 200 Annual General Meeting held in Edinburgh, between the 17th – 18th of April 2013.

Abolition 2000 is a network of over 2000 organisations in 90 countries who are working to achieve nuclear disarmament. This event will be a great opportunity for Scottish activists to meet and share experiences with international experts on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament.

To check the agenda and register please click on the following link: http://www.abolition2000.org/?page_id=2868

There will be an optional trip to Faslane on 19th of April. There might be a small fee associated with the trip, not more than £7.

The Abolition 2000 Closing Event will be on Thursday 18th of April, 6pm, at the Scottish Parliament.

Featured speakers include:

- Bill Kidd, MSP, A2000 Global Council Member, Co-President of PNND;
- Dr. Tad Akiba, Chairman Middle Powers Initiative, former Mayor of Hiroshima;
- Karipbek Kuyukov, Honorary Ambassador, ATOM Project (http://www.theatomproject.org);
and other invited guests, still to be confirmed.

Please email us back if you want to attend the Closing Event only. We will then send you a proper invitation and add you to the list.

Goose Thu 04-Apr-13 12:39:42

Granny23 It's heartening that Scotland's organised an event re: opposing Trident. It's a bit out of my commuting distance, or else I'd go. I suspect London CND will be getting this going down this end of the country again soonsmile

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