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Sharia Councils and domestic violence

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Greatnan Mon 08-Apr-13 15:04:22

I remember the case of the parents who murdered their daughter because of her Western lifestyle, (not the only such case), and I wonder how much of a willing participant the mother was.

Eloethan Mon 08-Apr-13 14:57:14

I think Sharia-type councils that have no legal standing but which have immense unofficial power in the muslim community are certainly not at all desirable. Because of community pressure, women feel that they have no choice but to submit to the authority of these courts, rather than to use the British legal system, even though the religious courts' rulings significantly disadvantage them and put them and their children at risk of bullying and violence.

I believe that the Jewish religion has a similar sort of religious council that, again, carries no legal standing, but which is equally influential. It also has severe implications for women in the matter of divorce.

I think greatnan also has a very good point as to the very strong influence of Catholic priests, who also put pressure on women to submit to their husbands' demands, although I guess their authority has waned over the last few decades - I certainly hope so.

I think both any type of religious court is undesirable but it's difficult to know what can be done about them if particular religious communities wish to use them. I feel the only hope is that more women like Sonia will have the courage to stand firm, as she did, and eventually obtain justice.

I wondered, if a woman had been told by one of these courts not to report to the police an act of violence against her, and that woman was subsequently killed by her husband, could the religious court officials be held legally responsible for urging someone not to report a crime?

On a slightly different point, now that the defence of "marital coercion" has been removed from the statute books, some commentators have suggested that, whilst it may be an outdated concept for most British women, its existence in certain ethnic communities is very real.

Greatnan Mon 08-Apr-13 10:14:57

Jess, I don't think you have to go back as far as Victorian England to find cases of priests advising women that they just had to put up with violence and marital rape. I hope and believe that things are different now, even in Southern Ireland - the child abuse scandal may have had some benign influence on Catholic thinking.
We are told often that we must respect all religions and cultures - well, I damn well can't respect any culture that treats women as chattels.

JessM Mon 08-Apr-13 07:33:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22044724
This is sad. Reminds one of Victorian England doesn't it, where ministers of Christian religion would have taken a similar line. I don't see that there is much "society" can do other than working hard at educating those girls.
I have come across similar when working for a local women's organisation - one of our clients seemed to be suffering from some kind of psychosis. But there was great resistance to seeking medical help "we deal with this kind of thing in our community" - was the response when an Asian colleague tried to talk to the family.