Thatcher has died

gillybob If a job is mind-numbingly boring but also carries great responsibility that requires concentration, my feeling is it should be well paid.

I think what some of us are trying to say is even 'before' Margaret Thatcher became PM this country was living in 'very dark days'. I think it would be a good thing if all GN's could accept that it was not just those in the north of England or the mine worker in the coalfields who were living in fear of loosing their jobs and indeed seeing our families loosing their jobs. The difference is the 'collective voice' is greater from the mining community as opposed to the disjointed 'non collective voice' of those in the Midlands, the South, the Home Counties etc.

Unemployment was forced onto the many, it was not the domain any one class, any one job, nor certainly any one geographical area. As said for some Margaret Thatcher is the demon. To others it was the unions, 'of that time'.

I am afraid we will probably have to agree to disagree on this one Eloethan

It would be a boring world if we all agreed all of the time wouldn't it?

Eloe. just for curiosity sake , why do you think she is having the funeral she is, and the others you talk of did not .

Curiosity , you understand !!

Eloethan No, I really do not thing that "everybody's else's job is a piece of cake". Why would I? I just asked a legitimate question. Is that really what you think or are you being provocative?

It seems to me we should accept what gilly says as surely she knows what she is talking about on this subject? (Doesn't mean I don't think you do on others gilly )

Micelf, Hope your "Parish Priest " said that tongue in cheek .

Not totally sure what your Parish priest meant .

Do sincerely hope it was Christian

I'm with whitewave - why should we pay for her funeral? Will we pay for John Major's when the time comes?

Nonu, no tongues in cheeks. He served in parishes which bore the consequences of policies promoted and initiated by Mrs Thatcher, and was appalled by her espousal of monetarism, her aggression, her support of Pinochet and attitude to South Africa and her calling Nelson Mandela a terrorist.

When I needed a neighbour were you there? is a lovely hymn / song by Sidney Carter inspired by the parable of the Good Samaritan. He felt that those attending the funeral would profit greatly from pondering and acting on those words.

No , you have got me there Mice , hope he only has one tongue .

You as a church goer may or may not be interested to know I was honoured to be chosen as Sacristan for my church.

I believe the church should remain separate from politics .

Are we sure she called Nelson Mandela a terrorist, and not just the ANC? There was all that awful 'necklace' killing, wasn't there? (nothing to do with NM himself)

I might have got that on the wrong MT thread.

It is a very long time since I have posted on Gransnet , but I feel so strongly about the many riots and 'celebrations ' at the death of Baroness Thatcher , that I feel I must voice those feelings . What sort of person is it that 'celebrates' another persons death ? Irrespective of their politics NO ONE deserves that kind of disrespect . I am ashamed and appalled at the behaviour of those people and truly wonder what is happening to the country I was once so proud to be part of .If those demonstrations/riots were racist would they be tolerated ?

movedalot You said "I have often wondered what is so difficult about driving a tube train. Can there be much to do just driving on rails"?

Me saying "everybody thinks everybody else's job is a piece of cake" was just a lighthearted way of suggesting that people often remark on other people's jobs when they know nothing about them. I didn't think I was being provocative.

Nonu, I'm delighted that you are a sacristan.

Frankly if the church is not involved in politics (not Party politics) which impact on everyone's lives, then it is completely irrelevant.

Looking out for the poor, the weak, the hungry, the oppressed and those who grieve, is what being a Christian should be all about.

Eloth , you are probably too busy to answer , must have a million things on your plate .
^ or ^ you haven"t an answer .

Agreed, riclorian.

No Mice I am no longer a sacristan, had to give up due to other pressures .
However, I am really pleased that you are delighted , quite makes my evening .

I know you think I talk rubbish most of the time Movedalot

I'll say a prayer for you as well.

Well Miceelf that is nice .

Matgaret Thatcher did call the ANC terrorists, not Nelson Mandella but that is nit picking. Typical of the character of the man, Nelson Mandella reportedly said "Well I was good at making bombs".

Am I alone in reading that Nelson Mandella is reported as understanding Margret Thatcher was a mouth piece for saving his life from a sentance to death from the SA government????

POGS...are you saying that because the miners had a collective voice and others in more disjointed industries didn't it was OK for Maggie to destroy them.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-we-were-wrong-to-call-mandela-a-terrorist-413684.html

Actually Mice , I said pressures , I really meant commitments