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Thatcher has died

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ticktock Mon 08-Apr-13 12:56:38

"Former Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher has died at 87 following a stroke" - just saw on the BBC.

j08 Tue 09-Apr-13 09:17:53

I definitely don't think you can pin the present day financial state of the UK on her as some of them in the media seem to be trying to do. That's a bit like blaming your parents for who you are today. It doesn't wash!

Nelliemoser Tue 09-Apr-13 09:24:39

jo8 When "that woman"came to power my son was under two and ii was pregnant with DD. I remember it very well.

Greatnan Tue 09-Apr-13 09:31:32

How does bringing up your children stop you taking an interest in politics?

Greatnan Tue 09-Apr-13 09:33:04

Jingle, if you really don't know/remember anything about her reign, it might make it difficult for you to give us informed comments.

absent Tue 09-Apr-13 09:33:50

Thatcher began the deregulation of and glorification of banks and financial services who now have a direct responsibility for the stinking mess that the country is in. Thatcher was also responsible for bunging great numbers of those she had made unemployed by closing the mines and a lot of manufacturing on a disability payment in order to massage the unemployment figures. That seems to be something of a mess right now too.

Oldgreymare Tue 09-Apr-13 09:35:57

Thank goodness there are people around who will not jump onto the bandwagon of those who wish to almost sanctify MT.
History is being re-written in her favour and that is both inappropriate and sad.
Greatnan I cannot bear to listen to some of the remarks so I am sitting in a different room with the radio off!

Ceesnan Tue 09-Apr-13 09:37:23

greatnan any comment to this?

iaindale.blogspot.com/.../belgrano-captain-we-did-pose-threat-to.htm...

I'm not justifying the deaths of course, but it annoys me when this sort of myth is used to try and and fuel to a fire.

Ceesnan Tue 09-Apr-13 09:38:03

Should be and add.

Ceesnan Tue 09-Apr-13 09:40:53

Just realised that the link is wrong. However, if you are interested you can google Belgrano captain threat and then go to the blogspot

annodomini Tue 09-Apr-13 09:40:58

I am listening to Classic FM a lot more than usual. Hagiography was developing well on Radios 4 and 5Live this morning!

Eloethan Tue 09-Apr-13 09:46:33

MiceElf I was thinking exactly the same as you - how different Mrs Thatcher's final years have been, compared to the many harrowing stories from Gransnetters' about their ailing parents.

j08 I doubt that mothers living in areas decimated by her policies were so indifferent to the actions of "Maggie".

I thought this was quite a good summary of Mrs Thatcher's actions and her continuing legacy, though I'm not altogether sure I agree with some of the arguments put forward (for instance, re closed shops and secret ballots).
scriptonitedaily.wordpress.com/

absent Tue 09-Apr-13 09:54:38

Ceesnan That the General Belgrano was, together with other Argentine ships, on course to attack British vessels is true. However, it was still in the exclusion zone and Mrs Thatcher agreed to change the rules of engagement in order to allow a nuclear hunter killer submarine sink it.

Greatnan Tue 09-Apr-13 10:05:46

Excellent article, Eleothan. I hope everybody takes the trouble to read it - it will save us having to make the same points outselves.

j08 Tue 09-Apr-13 10:07:00

Greatnan I don't remember making any comments about it apart from the one re today's financial situation.

V

Nelliemoser Tue 09-Apr-13 10:21:28

I had to switch the Radio off this a/m. (Radio 4 post 9am) when I heard her speaking! I am sure my blood pressure rises whenever I hear her voice.

whenim64 Tue 09-Apr-13 10:23:47

I did find this quite funny. Freudian slip somewhere at the BBC grin

'Margaret Thatcher has died from a STRIKE': BBC forced to correct breaking news error moments after death announced

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305848/Margaret-Thatcher-died-STRIKE-BBC-forced-correct-breaking-news-error-moments-death-announced.html#ixzz2PxLiY0Ah

j08 Tue 09-Apr-13 11:09:19

Oh look. You can do something to help remedy all these evils! money where mouth is

Greatnan Tue 09-Apr-13 11:21:05

Thank you, jingle, but I have already made my own choices of charities to support this year.

whenim64 Tue 09-Apr-13 11:32:48

Thanks Jingle. Great causes!

j08 Tue 09-Apr-13 11:45:10

That's absolutely top hole *Greatnan'! smile

annodomini Tue 09-Apr-13 12:59:29

Not that I am mourning for her ladyship, but the dancing and celebrating that seem to have been going on in some quarters sticks in my craw. It isn't just distasteful but nasty because it shows a complete disregard for her family who will be grieving over the death of a mother and grandmother.

vampirequeen Tue 09-Apr-13 13:01:00

I doubt her daughter is grieving that much and her son will already be checking his inheritance.

Nonu Tue 09-Apr-13 13:21:39

1925-2013

R. I. P.

Iron lady .

Mt thoughts and peayers are with her family

Tegan Tue 09-Apr-13 13:24:22

Didn't she get a huge payout when she stopped being Prime Minister; something that was introduced round about that time...John Major got it as well?

absent Tue 09-Apr-13 13:29:40

Tegan She was still getting her readjustment money up till yesterday. So does John Major, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

At least Nonu got it right. The Guardian, true to form, forgot to change the date that it had used on its dummy so its commemorative page read 1925–2010. Thai television showed Meryl Streep in her role in The Iron Lady when it announced the news of Baroness Thatcher's death and a couple of other Asian TV stations showed pictures of the Queen.