Idiotic thickos. Yes, another thread!!!

Personally I think MT's family should pick up the tab for the funeral if they want to have such a large state funeral.

Greatnan I'm reposting this in case you missed it:

"Greatnan why is it that you always put the worst possible interpretation on everything I post?

"Movedalot - does 'blinkered' mean 'not agreeing with me'? Are you ever blinkered or does it only apply to other people?"

You know full well that I am talking about only seeing one point of view and not admitting that there is any other view. I just don't understand why you do this all the time. What on earth motivates you?

I have used the word 'balanced' but you fail to notice that."

A response would be appreciated please.

Personally I think every family should pay for the funeral of their loved ones, but there are often cases where people die who have no family or personal assets and the state picks up the bill for a basic funeral.

Come to think of it I wonder if the queen paid for the queen mothers funeral or indeed princess Diana's or princess Margaret's or..........

Apparently we pay for the funerals of all ex-PMs so why should this one be different, she was the longest serving PM in the 20th C

Shame this nation cannot afford to train more paediatric surgeons to save children's lives. The Times p4.

I think it is perfectly acceptable for those who are for example Republicans on GN to say that Margaret Thatcher, The Queen etc., should not be given a funeral by the tax payer. It is equally acceptable for those of a difficult political view to say they do not agree and are supportive of doing the opposite.

I am sure for example there was a similar feeling when Hugo Chavez was given a state funeral. There were some who saw him as a good person, there were others who saw him as a murderer. The difference is in this country we are free to say what we think, in Venezuala you would have kept that thought to yourself, for very obvious reasons.

Does that make this a better nation, yes. The sadness then for me is when our democracy creates such hatred, both spoken and in deed.

I was not surprised this morning watching 'The Wright Stuff' to see Yasmin Adabaya Brown clapping like a demented sea lion when a caller suggested mourners on the funeral route should 'Turn their back on the coffin'. She was delighting in expressing her right to buy the record 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead', (I must admit I would have thought encouraging the capatalist money making by a another for writing a song was laughable). On the same show Ade Edmundson made a joke saying 'She should be put in a black plastic bag'. Oh how they laughed.

The only decent person on the panel was Kieran Bracken, the rugby player. I think he was genuinely shocked at the continuation of vitriol against a recently deceased person and had the, quiet, respectful decency to say so.

I private funeral, attended by family and a few worthies followed by a memorial service at a later date would avoid all this hoo-ha.

Agreed merlotgran I am concerned that the rioting idiots will turn out en-force on Wednesday which will be just awful.

Well I have to say Pogs that I am shocked (honestly, not joking) at YAB behaving like that. It's one thing thinking those things or saying them in private but as a public figure and media commentator, it doesn't do her or the causes she supports any good. I am a great critic of MT but all my comments on GN about her have ben about the policies she followed that I completely disagreed with. I also criticised the fact that ER is going to the funeral but I think all those comments are perfectly justifiable and it's acceptable to make them.I have to say though that I never watch the Wright Show so don't know what it's normally like. I have listened to an awful lot of Radio 3 these last few days for obvious reasons. Re Chavez - he was the head of state when he died, whatever you think of him, so can't really argue about a state funeral can you? Of course, MT supported Pinochet who toppled a democratically elected leader and who (Pinochet that is) presided over the murder and torture of thousands of innocent people

Pardon the stupid question bluebell but who is YAB ?

I think 'er is going to the funeral 'cos 'er probably liked 'er.

Gilly - Yasmin Alibhai-Brown (see Pogs post)

gilly you are really on form today!

None the wiser bluebell sorry. I have never heard of her.

I'm feeling proper mischievous today Movedalot. Had to look up the spelling of it though.

Merlotgran - memorial services can be really lovely as they happen a while afterwards.There have been some really nice ones for some famous people - they are often more human- but they can be nice for the rest of us too). My mum had a lovely memorial service - we all had chance to think much more about how we wanted to mark her amazing life and I felt it was a better tribute to her than the funeral.

gilly keep it up, its good to know who the fun people are.

Hey! We are managing to tempt gillybob away from her work on two different threads at the same time! Is she on any others!

Nellie I'm not going to look. Promised myself I would dust in time for DH to follow me round with the vacuum cleaner. Must do it before he gets frustrated.

gilly bob

YAB Yasmin Alibhai Brown. She is a left wing writer respected by those of her persuasion. I think a lot of GN's indeed have made reference to her in the past with varying views, some good, some not so good. She is proably regarded as being more aligned to the Guardian but has taken the buck from The Daily Mail, the paper she proports to despising so much.

bleubell

The point I was making about Chavez was not the level of their stature, but the fact that there will be those who think it is a good thing to celebrate a funeral and others who abhor the same person getting the funeral. Nothing more, nothing less. I was not comparing Margaret Thatcher to Chavez I am sorry if my post read that way.

Pogs - no I didn't read it like that - I suppose I meant that if anyone has a state funeral it will be someone who is head of state when they die but actually thinking about it, that needn't necessarily be the case I suppose.

Not shocked by YAB being so repellent. She changes her views to match those of the people she wants to be thought well of. And she talks a lot of codswallop.

Lily is she old enough to come on here?

Amen to the Lilygran.

I didn't know who she was so Googled her - take a look at her Wiki entry before it's removed.

Just had a look, Sel! Her appearance on The Wright Show obviously didn't go down well in certain quarters...