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The Elderly Peoples Entitlement

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harvatt Mon 13-May-13 13:29:16

Pensioners, are you fortunate enough to own a computer ? How about
giving some support to the Petition that has been started by
The Daily Express.
For those of us who are not classified as wealthy - Do we want to
lose our Winter Fuel Allowance , Our TV Licence and our Bus Pass
as is the intention of the present Government .
How about us all taking part in their Petition. I am not associated
in any way with The Daily Express but I am a Pensioner and not one
with a high income and I would like to see fair play for us all .
The On-Line Number Is :-

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/49599

I have just signed it !

Regards Terry .

harvatt Tue 14-May-13 10:33:05

Thanks Faye for those choice words !

smile

Faye Tue 14-May-13 01:05:39

Welcome harvatt. Wise words from ps. Who would want to live in Frank's world. All bums and tums and the winner takes all.

harvatt Tue 14-May-13 00:26:07

Thanks to you all for your comments, I do appreciate what you
are saying and will take heed of them , maybe I was a bit touchy.

Aka Mon 13-May-13 23:42:54

Yes, welcome harvatt and Frank is just winding up those who are gullible methinks.

Nonu Mon 13-May-13 23:15:32

Harvatt , Sel. has offered very wise words , take heed , you are welcome here and your opinions are as valid as the next.

ps Mon 13-May-13 22:50:26

HUNTERF I am at a loss to understand the logic of your statement. In 1977 I was paying income tax at 83% albeit only on earnings over £22400 (or thereabouts if my memory serves me correctly) I certainly do not feel that it would or in fact should entitle me to any kind of benefit over and above those received by anyone else no matter if they paid tax or not.
Taking your statement to the nth degree would see those with no need receiving all benefits and those with all the need receiving nothing. Sorry, am I missing something here, I pay taxes in order for society as a whole to benefit from a predetermined standard of living and that is right and proper (except of course perhaps in the pages of the Daily Mail).
The benefits in question are payable on reaching a certain age not on means or past earnings and as a consequence tax paid. There is obviously arguable reasoning that those same benefits perhaps should not be paid to those of substantial and independant means but collectively we are, I would suggest, generally average here (I have a bus pass and receive winter fuel allowance and free prescriptions should I ever need them). I am far too young for a free TV license but look forward to the day I can have one. However I do not have a £600K pa pension either and although I do draw a pension I still work and still pay tax on earnings and pension.

Deedaa Mon 13-May-13 22:48:27

I have signed as I think the latest suggestions may not be the best way to re organise these benefits.

Sel Mon 13-May-13 22:35:27

harvatt as you were smile You got your point across and there are always pouncers on here, best ignored.

harvatt Mon 13-May-13 22:26:27

noodles - I do not know what I expected to be honest , there
certainly are a few odd ones - no names but does one person
amongst us have a degree in English !!! I had to look one
word up ?
One thing I have found on Forums is that there are those who
pounce on any word that that seems out of place - no allowance
made. So much for what I thought is a friendly Forum !
Regards.

Nonu Mon 13-May-13 22:06:42

Hunterf , I have never heard of that before !

granjura Mon 13-May-13 21:55:20

Frank that is bo***ks.

Ana Mon 13-May-13 20:04:26

Frank, that's rubbish!

Ariadne Mon 13-May-13 20:00:10

Who are you, Harvatt? A peroration like this, out of the blue, needs personal substantiation, I feel.

susieb755 Mon 13-May-13 19:54:44

not sure - I am not a pensioner yet, but my widowed mum had a better income than my DD and her partner combined... with a baby they would have liked a fuel allowance and free travel !

There should be a cut off point, where if you have an income of say £30k, you dont get the freebies

HUNTERF Mon 13-May-13 19:51:50

The more tax you pay makes you more entitled to things like heating allowance, free prescriptions and free TV licence.

Frank

betsysgran Mon 13-May-13 19:39:01

Signed!

noodles Mon 13-May-13 19:38:45

harvatt Are the answers what you expected?

harvatt Mon 13-May-13 19:34:32

An interesting set of answers !!

bluebell Mon 13-May-13 19:13:14

I think the argument for free prescriptions is very different from the argument for the winter fuel allowance. Not sure at all about the TV licence and the bus pass has an environmental dimension as well but could see an argument for paying something - either for the pass itself or per journey - probably the latter. Of all the 4, I think the fuel allowance should be means tested in a simple way - eg just go to those getting pensioner credit. Taxing it would probably be difficult because it would involve more people having to fill in tax forms. Could do the same with the TV licence or stop the benefit.

noodles Mon 13-May-13 18:53:43

'Entitlement' is such an emotive word! I think it makes us sound very greedy.

'For those of us who are not classified as wealthy' is a poorly chosen phrase, and is very divisive.

Stansgran Mon 13-May-13 18:43:32

There would be no one on the buses if it weren't for pensioners. It's 50p between 9.00and9.30 and often I'm often the only person on the bus then between Durham and Newcastle . 50p for a chauffeur and stretch limo as far as I'm concerned.

Charleygirl Mon 13-May-13 18:11:16

i agree with Noodles but I have signed it as I cannot really afford to lose the allowances.

Nonu Mon 13-May-13 18:05:06

Also , and perhaps this just me but i think Older would have been better than Elderly .

Makes us sound as though we are all in our dotage .

Nonu Mon 13-May-13 17:57:17

You think and I"ll follow , but you might have to get a wiggle on , as i am off tomorrow.
Laugh .

Ariadne Mon 13-May-13 17:50:10

Yes, me too but need to think of a rational response, nonu!