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Nigella

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merlotgran Mon 17-Jun-13 14:46:58

Poor Nigella. How humiliating for her. Apparently it was a 'playful tiff'. I wonder if Charles Saatchi would like playful kick in the goolies?

feetlebaum Tue 30-Jul-13 19:45:08

AKA - how do you make out that that was 'sexist'? It usually takes one of each sex to have a 'domestic'... talk about cry wolf...

I was a saxist, but I didn't hate my saxophone... well, not often...

whenim64 Wed 24-Jul-13 09:51:21

Just responding to your last point to feetle' Jess smile

JessM Wed 24-Jul-13 09:29:22

Yes things do seem to have improved - I remember 25 yrs ago my mother knew someone who was killed by her ex. He went to the house with a knife and stabbed her. He had military training so knew what he was doing. He got a few years for manslaughter and the poor grandmother, who was caring for the children, was terrified when he was released. Police no help then.
But this study, posted above, is about the behaviour of bystanders in bars etc as in the Nigella scenario.

whenim64 Wed 24-Jul-13 08:52:29

A few years ago, GMP posted a bobby near a woman's house because her imprisoned husband was being released that day. There wasn't a DV Unit in those days, but GMP were on the ball. That officer saved her life when he noticed movement near the house and found the husband inside trying to strangle her. It made the papers because the husband was a prison governer.

Iam64 Wed 24-Jul-13 08:41:22

Working alongside GMP for many years leads me to conclude there are more good people than bad in the police when it comes to the police response to domestic abuse situations.

JessM Wed 24-Jul-13 07:51:46

Hopefully the police have stopped making such excuses feetle

Aka Wed 24-Jul-13 07:50:43

Indeed? That's not my experience from working with abused woman, but then the police were (some still are) notoriously sexist and most people wouldn't bother repeating such rubbish let alone believe it.

feetlebaum Wed 24-Jul-13 07:42:52

I remember policemen saying that 'a domestic' was a problem because when you interfered you often ended up with two opponents...

JessM Wed 24-Jul-13 06:42:16

Interesting research into bystanders intervening in public fights. Seems in Toronto at least people are more willing to break up a fight between 2 men than between a man and a woman.

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130723155048.htm

Nonu Sun 07-Jul-13 13:16:29

Perhaps he should have thought of that .

hope she does well out of it .

JessM Sun 07-Jul-13 13:13:32

Well he has got a shed load of money to lose! Probably vastly more rich than she is.

Nonu Sun 07-Jul-13 13:11:33

She is well shot of him.

Bet he make things as unpleasant , as he possibly can .

Ella46 Sun 07-Jul-13 13:07:44

Classic bully.............it's her fault!

gracesmum Sun 07-Jul-13 09:59:57

Rat bag of the first order.

whenim64 Sun 07-Jul-13 09:56:59

Typical! A controlling spouse who can't allow himself to think she might be keeping things as quiet as she can for the sake of her children, and to get over the whole thing in as dignified a manner as possible.

mollie Sun 07-Jul-13 09:41:23

He is such a gentleman:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10164887/Charles-Saatchi-announces-he-is-to-divorce-Nigella-Lawson.html

I think she has the moral high ground on this one...

merlotgran Sun 23-Jun-13 19:19:09

grin jingle

j08 Sun 23-Jun-13 19:14:01

matt today

annodomini Sun 23-Jun-13 14:43:52

This article refers to an incident that took place 7 years ago. I suspect that the scales have long since fallen from Nigella's eyes, Aka. Her children have most likely told her what they think of him! Apparently the 'tiff' in the restaurant was about them.

Aka Sun 23-Jun-13 14:38:01

Sadly it also shows Nigella up in a poor light.

whenim64 Sun 23-Jun-13 14:15:34

Yes, I read that too, anno. Why would a man you had only just met tell your child he could not have the music you had already let him choose? Alarm bells would have been going for me.

annodomini Sun 23-Jun-13 14:06:44

This revealing anecdote shows Saatchi as a bullying control freak. I suspect Nigella's children dislike him intensely.

sussexpoet Sun 23-Jun-13 13:31:26

The only reason for the publicity that this case has aroused is because Nigella Lawson is a well-known woman. Many hundreds of women are treated like this (and worse) every day - and get no publicity until they are actually murdered. Domestic abuse has always been an under-reported crime, and stigma usually attaches to the victims rather than to the perpetrator. It's about time things changed! and I sincerely hope that Nigella will part from this awful man, not only for her own sake but for the sake of other women in similar situations. I speak from experience: many years ago I was an abused wife, although the bulk of my abuse was psychological rather then physical - actually the former is even worse.

Iam64 Wed 19-Jun-13 07:16:15

Charles Saatchi's comments after "accepting" a police caution are typical of domestic abusers. He doesn't believe he has done anything wrong, but "accepted" a caution to avoid a continued police investigation. He'd sought legal advice, which must have been that the photographs would be evidence of assault. I've come across so many people who have been cautioned for assaults abuse, but continue to deny having committed an offence. I do hep Nigella has the strength to end this abusive relationship, goodness only knows what goes on behind closed doors.

Ella46 Mon 17-Jun-13 20:28:17

Exactly Marelli