Should Ian Brady be declared sane.....

I hadn't made the connection but apparently he and Hindley were on trial /sentenced just as the death penalty was being abolished in the UK and there were moves to reverse or delay the implementation so that it could apply to them. Not wishing to get into a discussion on the death penalty, so all I would wish for is for the remaining relatives of the victims to know their final resing place so that they can achieve some sort of closure. Brady should not be allowed the publicity he is enjoying (and I do use the term advisedly)

I think anybody who can kill children in cold blood without any remorse should in my opinion be executed, that cant happen so he should be put in a dark cell and be totally ignored, if he wants to kill himself so be it. But I dont think he would, he is a coward really. Dont give him the pleasure of being noticed. The problem is all the do-gooders will be on his side. And the papers are probably doing well out of sales? So the pantomime will carry on.

Ps I like this forum, wished we had found it sooner.

I haven't noticed any 'do gooders' being on his side - only people saying we should observe the ethical and legal standards of Britain when dealing with all criminals.

alanthetiler, I'm glad you like being here on the forum with us.
Did you perhaps mean do-gooders like Lord Longford/Myra Hindley?

Poor Lord Longford, he truly looked for the good in people like Hindley didn't he? I could never make up my mind whether she truly regretted what she had done and repented or whether she was merely exploiting his good nature.

Something that will never be known now, gracesmum.

Discussing Myra Hindley seems inevitable given the fact that Ian Brady is so much in the news currently. There are those who argue that she was vulnerable, and led into committing these truly dreadful crimes by her involvement with Brady. Those who knew Myra Hindley in prison generally agree she remained a manipulative, unempathic, cold individual, who ensured her own needs were met, a user of others.

I have often wondered if locking someone away for life is any better in terms of human rights, than execution : we obviously have to protect society from people like Brady ,and there is absolutely no doubt that he committed the crimes , so if he wants to die , let him. As some have already said he probably has no idea where the child's remains are. It would be like the proverbial needle and haystack.

That was my (totally unfounded and uneducated) suspicion, Iam64 - leopards and spots etc.

Seems to me he's still playing his manipulative games. What kind of person kills children to prove he's better than everyone else?

It's been announced that he's still mentally ill and will stay at Ashworth. I think that's the right outcome...

I think it's the right one as well, mollie. He's not been allowed to have HIS wishes fulfilled. Good.

I don't know whether it was the right decision, because I don't have access to the evidence the tribunal heard. I'm sure Ian Brady is bad through and through, but whether he is mad as well is the 64,000 dollar question. What I am sure of is that it would have been a brave tribunal that made the decision he was sane, thereby allowing him to be transferred to prison with who knows what outcome. I don't actually care what happens to him but I thank god we have people who are willing to take care of those we would prefer never to think of again.

I just hope that we never hear his name in the news again until the day that he dies. Hopefully he has had his last day in court, he can now retire to his room and be quietly forgotten about.

Ian Brady is still a manipulative sadist; for years he tantalised Keith Bennet's bereaved mother with the hope that he would lead her to her son's burial place. The poor woman died not long ago, still seeking the truth. Personally, I have always considered that Brady and Hindley should have been buried on Saddleworth Moor years ago, possibly without the formality of hanging them first! (and I bet that for every person who calls me wicked there will be 20 others who agree with me, even if they don't speak up)

sussexpoet, I, for one, don't think you're wicked.

I don't understand how this appeal came to court in the first place. A complete waste of money.

I think it was a mental health tribunal, not an appeal. And it was, I believe, played out in public at Bradys request. He's cost us £16m over the years...incredible!

It was a mental health tribunal NfkDumpling rather than an appeal. Brady has a right to a tribunal because he is sectioned under the mental health act. They are heard by three professionals, headed by a judge. The fact that he remains on a section means he will be entitled to apply for further tribunals, so we may not have heard the last of him.

Crossed posts mollie

Aha, a tribunal, I see. I wasn't paying attention. I suppose we will get more of them as he doesn't have Mrs Bennett to torment any more.

And much as I like the idea of him being kept alive and force fed - £16 million - that's a lot for a rat.

We don't even need to force feed him theses days, he has toast and cuppa soups whenever he fancies!

In that case, I vote he should be declared sane enough for prison and let him go on hunger strike.

I agree...or let rough justice do its worst. Sorry, I'm not an advocate of violence or capital punishment but some people really shouldn't be allowed to exist...