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Horseriding Zara

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Bags Mon 08-Jul-13 22:04:45

Why isn't one supposed to horseride when one is pregnant? Is it worse than cycling? If so, why?

I cycled until a couple of weeks before DD2 was born, and was one my bike again three weeks after. Actually, I had a break from cycling for a while because I fell off the bike when I was six months pregnant and chipped my elbow, but that aside.... that labour was only an hour and twenty-five minutes long from me realising I was having contractions a few minutes apart to her being born.

Anyway, the question, why is it NHS advice not to horseride when pregnant?
I should probably do some googling but CBA so don't mind if get figuratively swatted for being a lazybones. Going to bed shortly.

moon

Tegan Tue 09-Jul-13 23:18:22

Sorry; I thought 3 day eventers hurled horses at 5 foot fences on a regular basis confused. My mistake. What I probably meant was 5 foot high, 5 foot wide and with a lake on the other side....

Sel Tue 09-Jul-13 23:36:40

Comedians would pay for this material grin

gracesmum Wed 10-Jul-13 10:08:13

Tegan grin you forgot the ditch in front of the fence as well.

j08 Wed 10-Jul-13 11:43:14

And my legs do work independently of each other. (I'm sorry, I couldn't keep that in!)

j08 Wed 10-Jul-13 11:43:54

That was to Bags

Bags Wed 10-Jul-13 11:50:12

Pish!

Bags Wed 10-Jul-13 11:50:38

That was to jings.

wink

nanaej Wed 10-Jul-13 12:52:55

thehorsenutritionist.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/thelwell.jpg

totcycle.com/blog/baby-on-bike-breakthroughs.html

I like a few illustrations ..I am a visual learner!

Aka Wed 10-Jul-13 13:49:22

And the dressage Tegan, I meant three day eventing is a mixture of events not just show jumping and x-country and you'd not get very far if you 'hurdled' your horse at these very solid fences. Many of them need to be taken in a balanced and careful way, even if they are travelling.
I know you're a racing enthusiast so I expect you know about this anyway, but others may not.

Aka Wed 10-Jul-13 13:50:17

Sorry was having a bad brain day Ana ...still am in fact.

gracesmum Wed 10-Jul-13 16:31:56

And some of us do, Aka - Tegan made a totally valid point which didn't merit your mocking dismissal.

Tegan Wed 10-Jul-13 16:37:41

Much as I go racing a lot it freaks me out watching cross country. I know the fences are slightly smaller than steeplechase fences but when I see the width of some of them [and how solid they are; I mean, they jump cars sometimes confused] it terrifies me. The girl that took over Kauto Star to train him for dressage had a terrible accident the other day doing cross country; we're hoping vey much that it isn't as bad as at first thought sad. You've still got to jump those fences at speed or you'd never get across them. Thinking about it, it's one of the few sports where men and women compete at the same level. I've often wondered if they all have to carry the same weight [I've wondered about that with show jumping as well]. Time for a quick google, methinks....

j08 Wed 10-Jul-13 17:11:40

No brain needed round 'ere Aka. grin

Very good nanaej. But even I can see the down sides to some of those! grin

Aka Wed 10-Jul-13 18:40:25

Grace pretty please will you stop attacking every thing I say. I'm sure Tegan could see the humour in my post and didn't take offence. Neither did I the offence when Ana mocked me, I deserved it!
I am speaking about x-country from a position of knowledge as a course builder and one who organised the North West Area Trials. Yes, the fences are horrendous, but anyone who attempts to simply jump them at speed is going to come a cropper. There are choices to be made on every course. Some jumps you have to take a speed others you need to count strides, slow up, steady the horse etc. this is the reason that the riders, like jockeys, walk the course first to work out lines of approach, pacing, strides, etc.
Tegan is also correct that men and women compete on equal terms. No, there is no weight restrictions in eventing or show jumping.
Riding is a dangerous sport. Look what happened to Superman (sorry I forget his name) and that was 'only' show jumping.

Aka Wed 10-Jul-13 18:41:51

J0 grin

Ana Wed 10-Jul-13 18:44:17

I did not 'mock' you, Aka! confused

It was a joke, albeit one which showed me up in a rather bad light as I was miffed that you had not read my post about J08 having a basket on her bike!

i really didn't intend your feelings to be hurt, and I'm sorry if they were...

Aka Wed 10-Jul-13 18:48:51

Ana my feelings were not hurt, in fact you made me LOL. I'm pretty robust emotionally (these days) and I knew it was was a joke grin
Perhaps I should have said 'gently mocked'. My adult children are always 'mocking' me but in an affectionate way, which makes me smile as it shows they know me well.

Aka Wed 10-Jul-13 18:50:32

PS sorry I didn't read your post I obviously missed that one but it was a 3-grandchild day and I was probably distracted.

Tegan Wed 10-Jul-13 18:52:47

Christopher Reeve. That was horrible, wasn't it. I find the weight thing in showjumping very strange because there must be a difference in weight of several stones sometimes, and it must surely be easier for a horse to jump a fence with a lot less weight on it's back? But then you'd have to take into account the heaviest rider and the other horses would have masses of lead to carry. In racing one pound equates to one length [I think] when horses are being handicapped so a lighter rider in a cross country event would surely bring the time down [?]. We've got one rider currently paralysed from the neck down and another one in an induced coma but very much hope that it isn't as bad as that sad. So glad my daughter never wanted to ride in a competitive way or that my son wanted to be a jockey.

Aka Wed 10-Jul-13 23:15:53

Yes, Christopher Reeve. Horrible indeed. It doesn't take much to just fall awkwardly, at the wrong angle and do real damage. My daughter once fell badly at a x-cross country event and a member of the public (a nurse) wanted her to put her head between her knees! Another young rider who was walking the course had to intervene and told her to lie still untill the ambulance could get to her. Jockeys too are often injured. And of course horses sadly.
Tegan I think the system of handicapping race horses has a lot to do with the practice of betting on races and it tries to level the changes a bit more?

Tegan Thu 11-Jul-13 11:01:11

Oh it is all to do with betting in races but it still means that horses carrying lighter weights in other competitive sports have an advantage if it involves a speed trial of any kind [otherwise the handicapping system wouldn't work]. I mean some showjumping blokes are enormous confused.

Atqui Thu 11-Jul-13 11:18:21

Zara did come off her horse at the weekend at Barbury horse trials.or did someone already say this ? If so sorry I mentioned it but I think Bags said she would never fall off ( or should t hat be "thrown")

Tegan Thu 11-Jul-13 11:50:25

Laura Collett had a terrible fall at Barbury; still in intensive care as far as I know sad.

Nonu Thu 11-Jul-13 11:55:00

Apparently , when Anne was congratulated at Stornaway , on her daughter"s pregnancy , she looked puzzled , then replied "OH it was nothing to do with me .

Gracious as ever !!

sad

Tegan Thu 11-Jul-13 11:57:15

Just googled it and ,yes, Zara did have a fall at Barbury. Another girl died recently when her horse lifted it's head suddenly and hit her in the face as she was riding it. I know of someone that was killed whilst putting her horses back into the field when one kicked out at her. Years ago I asked my farrier if he would just nip into the field and get our old pony for me and he said there was no way he'd go into a field where there were horses he didn't know, and he'd worked with them for years. Was stood next to another friend who was stroking a horse and, with no warning she kicked forward at him and just missed confused. She then moved to another yard and broke someone's arm. Dangerous things, horses whether you're on their backs or stood next to them.