Poor old Ed Miliband

But if you thought both were 'up to the job' riverwalk which should stand back ? Husband or Wife

I think it wrong that Ed Milliband is accused of stabbing his brother in the back, should David have stood back to give his brother a clear run? No, they are there for the party not family

Jess competing athletes?

Just so JessM,

Annie in the case of Balls & Cooper I'd say both of them - neither would be up to the job!

There are three Belgian runners, twins and another brother. They often compete in races. Nobody tries to make a melodrama out of it Then there are the Williams sisters.

Then who should stand back riverbank, the man or the woman? Mmmmm

Smiley added

Whenever some of us have criticised the DM in the past, some members have flown to its defence. Perhaps they are all on holiday.

On a more serious note Jen deep down in its heart and soul , the DM believes in tax havens and rich people not having to pay taxes

Jen

I certainly think that a married couple should never stand for leadership in the same contest!

Janeainsworths, It isn't my opinion it is fact , David Milliband had no right of succession to lead the party, he put his name forward for election as did others, where was the back stabbing? The fact there were two brothers standing for leadership is unusual but both were members of the party and so both were equal in their right to stand for party leader. Do you think that Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper should never stand for leadership in the same contest because they are married.?

Surely the elder brother taking precedence over the younger brother is something we leave to the aristocracy , certaintly not in a political party

If you had two sons running in a school race would you berate one son for winning thus causing the other brother to lose?

As would the question of what if Tony Benn had been elected as leader, and what would have happened if John Smith hadn't died when he did.
Any DM readers on here, could you ask it to do a similar job on Cameron's dad, who made his money out of off-shore tax havens and setting up schemes so others could do the same.

Anniebach you are of course entitled to your opinion, but I agree with Riverwalk and I think the question of what would have happened if David had succeeded Gordon Brown instead of Ed will be one of the big 'What if's that future commentators will debate.

That's a good point, Jingle. A 17 year old who has fled the trauma of persecution, and records in his diary his current viewpoint. Does this undermine the campaign to bring down voting age to 16? Thinking about it, I don't think it does - we all have the right to change our minds over time, and as our political awareness develops.

Yes iam 64. The comments under many of the DM articles are refreshing to read.

My God! That Newsnight video was a bit hard to watch! I actually felt sorry for the Daily Mail bloke!

One thing though. They are making something of the fact that the diary entry was written when Miliband' s dad was only seventeen, and yet they want to bring down the voting age to sixteen. That is a bit confusing.

The mail has now reached 'rock bottom and still drilling' . Yet it pleases many in this country !

Janeainsworth, Ed Milliband did not destroy his brothers political career.

The DM article was shameful but let's not get too sentimental about poor Ed in his defence of his father's legacy - this is a man who stabbed his own brother in the back in a breathtaking grab for power.

Not a well timed row for DC's speech today - land of opportunity!

hope you're right When, that Ed is finally finding his Mojo. I heard him speak during the leadership process, and liked what he said, and how he said it. Simon Hoggart in last week's Guardian commented that if you saw his conference speech on tv you'd probably see a rather geeky man shouting - whereas if you were in the hall for the speech, it was electrifying. (or words to that effect).
Gnan, I read the Daily Hate on line as well. This, after castigating daughter 2 for doing so. I read other papers on line as well, but feel slightly guilty for 'supporting' the mail on line. Its apparently the most read on line. The comments under its articles are often critical of the paper's line on women, benefit cheats etc. Thankfully.

Newsnight was very entertaining last night. The deputy editor of the DM was squirming in his seat as his arguments were demolished by Alistair Campbell. It'll be interesting to see what today brings. Ed and co are on a roll now.......

Blair's father is/was a staunch conservative. Of course, so is Blair.
So the Rothermere's friendship with the Nazis was 'not relevant'.

Jane - yes you are probably right - if David weighed in it would just be an excuse to run the whole leadership thing again. I thought DC handled it well on the radio - my guess is that there are probably lots of dodgy dads in the political classes

I think the issue with the DM is fairly and squarely about editorial policy rather than journalism. It also has a lot to do with Ed Miliband's stance on Leveson.
Still, it is very gratifying to see that Ed has got them so rattled.

Bluebell - perhaps David thinks discretion is the better part of valour!
A dignified silence is the best response to the toe-rags at the DM - let others draw attention to the complete lack of human decency.
Greatnan - I don't think many of the DM's articles on health would stand up to scientific scrutiny!