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children discouraged to kiss grandparents

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lucyinthesky Wed 08-Jan-14 09:18:36

In the Daily Mail today - children should not be encouraged to kiss their grandparents! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535633/Dont-make-kids-kiss-granny-Outcry-sex-education-chiefs-say-high-five-wave-safer.html

Not sure that I've read anything more stupid for a very long time:

^For instead of helping a child learn about showing affection, it may blur the boundaries of what is acceptable when it comes to physical contact, according to Lucy Emmerson, co-ordinator of the Sex Education Forum.
She even claims that encouraging a youngster to blow a kiss, high-five or wave to a relative instead will help them avoid future sexual exploitation.
Children need to learn from the start about the importance of consent and that ‘their bodies are their own’, she says.
Her controversial comments, in an online sex education resource for teachers, were immediately attacked by family campaigners.
They said there was no evidence that children who are persuaded to kiss close relatives are more at risk of being sexually exploited later and said her recommendation undermined parents.
Norman Wells, director of the Family Education Trust, said: ‘Even if the distinction is lost on the Sex Education Forum, children and young people are able to recognise that there is all the difference in the world between self-consciously– and perhaps on occasion reluctantly – kissing an uncle or aunt on the cheek on the one hand, and accepting unwanted sexual advances on the other.^

Mamie Wed 08-Jan-14 17:11:55

I haven't seen the original article, but I suspect that was all it was saying. If they don't want to, don't force them.
As I said, it is the DM article that is ridiculous.

Nonu Wed 08-Jan-14 17:34:43

Lucy , it was Mamie did at 15.22 . I was able to pick up hers , but not yours !
Anyway long story , I ^WAS able to get the gist of what you were sauing so it does not really matter ,before you ask I don"t know how to BLUE , x

Mamie Wed 08-Jan-14 17:39:42

You tick the "convert link automatically" box below the post.

POGS Wed 08-Jan-14 17:43:19

Mamie

If as you say you have not read the article might I suggest you read it by going to the other thread running on this report.

It is a report written by a woman called Lucy Emmer son, Co-Ordinator of the Sex Education Forum. Not a report written by or for the Daily Mail. Infact the Daily Mail does give a balanced article if you are not of the opinion that it is the devils work.

Mamie Wed 08-Jan-14 18:02:11

POGS I read the DM article first thing this morning. I was immediately alerted by the description of someone who wrote an article in the Sex Education Forum as an "Education Chief". This is inaccurate rubbish. I have not read the Sex Education Forum eMagazine. Can you give us some examples of how the DM has given a balanced report of the whole of the original article?

Ana Wed 08-Jan-14 18:11:43

Perhaps the Guardian will do its own report on the subject tomorrow, then we won't have these continual DM snipings...hmm

Nonu Wed 08-Jan-14 18:15:11

ANA smile

Mamie Wed 08-Jan-14 18:20:05

The Telegraph uses exactly the same quotes. I can't find the original article on the Sex Education Forum website, though.

Mamie Wed 08-Jan-14 18:33:50

The Independent has a slightly different take: www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/forcing-children-to-kiss-family-members-could-affect-their-sexual-development-9046455.html
The Family Education Trust who provide the counter argument in DM and DT has an interesting provenance though.

Ana Wed 08-Jan-14 18:57:02

The Telegraph is a slightly posher version of the DM though, surely? grin

Mamie Wed 08-Jan-14 19:07:48

Yes marginally more restrained grin
Funny how the papers manage to read and thoroughly research it and come up with exactly the same quotes though.... hmm

FlicketyB Wed 08-Jan-14 22:12:47

They will all be quoting the same press release sent out to all papers by the Sex Education Forum.

Ana Wed 08-Jan-14 22:25:51

Yes, but presumably they'll all put their individual spin on it. Take your pick...